From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81CEE2001DB; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so1851248wib.10 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:43:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QIK3khfaM07VuhtcQDrV1cCkXIOtQ8icVAopIFjwvFs=; b=q80W4wRtEZu9MXzOSkXZSWn8Tl/+C28ic6R+tU8m49T/nM/IX8cRwsgQxrc8qKT9aP 5C6lZqSZO57EWKWunH9fQmBfQzMN1tXVhMdWOVMIiBPBP1KOuwYN7EkUPjwmmkvAqffk JITonUhHDQUMYVmMo1BJECVOMhQzlFMnSNd0XE/dtuubqjT6N379myGylrc4Vxj0Y+CF uRc1Q3QoTnpQvJIhKK/ehuWTX26O7eTnatDqb7Xj8RWxM/ngVVcIZh4BUtaObLI+l0Y7 xv9YxQM2vRX7aKa2wjujJK7umXFpbgaw7I5olm0kMRl/RldgrLmPOPi9J7+uNk31INU6 zAng== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.80.104 with SMTP id q8mr15721632wix.14.1331423035901; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.151.8 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:43:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:43:55 +0000 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] adding voice/video testing to the mix? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:43:59 -0000 http://freeswitch.org/ has a story about webrtc support that was kind of interesting. I used to care deeply about voip, and certainly interactive videoconferencing is one place where debufferbloating things is going to help a lot, and it's one of the things that drives jg's universe. Also I have a desire to evaluate how the new aqm technologies interact with r/t streams in comparison with tcp and torrent. The freeswitch developers use an interesting development model, where their software is tied directly into irc. Anyone can join a voice conference room and participate. Vuc is also an interesting 'channel' where periodic interviews and conference calls take place. It might be cool to have a bloat voip conference going on continuously as well. Ages ago (june?) I'd wanted to establish a freeswitch server on the east coast, with native ipv6 access, so as to best span the American and EU with minimal latency. A ton of people offered help at the time, but they all offered virtual boxes in places that had no native ipv6. It's kind of my hope that native ipv6 support in US data centers has improved since then? I'm ill-inclined to learn enough about freeswitch to actually set a box up on my own, but I do have a box in the bloatlab in california I could repurpose for this, if I could gain a volunteer to get it working, and set up a few stress tests (sipp and something that beats up on rtp) - (what's sort of driving this is that recently I was on a conference call that was so horrible, with multiple participants dropping out, terrible noise, that I wanted to be able to analyze the root causes) There are also other commercial products perhaps worth adding into the mix. --=20 Dave T=E4ht SKYPE: davetaht US Tel: 1-239-829-5608 http://www.bufferbloat.net