From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x236.google.com (mail-qt0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 482FA3B2A3 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x236.google.com with SMTP id k15so30090111qtg.3 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:02:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5mQ5C6ULL2IuK7o2jJjFXrWB+K9I3k7gGfnV35DwT/8=; b=dMQE9Tq2mf9EWFSjmndUnnuwyiTWyO2YysPid0utNBubSDzQzOP6PuSVHyye3Ui7uV qpTFB8OgrLADxu6oxDGEbB0udnGkw+HyJR9e7SVqvsEl+Tqqp/ihRUzuY5pMGBaRWWNT y10XKiErA+jmbrH/pEt5S5e1nlCV+klkk7nF9KeK0TCq79PRsg+LOKl2lJCSWkR3Tjcq gEEV4jhk2RCA+UathQyoEvFAiMQxiKrjXG93feQWjl6dQ1bzTdzeAj9RuKxVmPTDMQHZ hvWSJfU8Vt9kQiVvRrAPoMJga57TOaJNOB5SDFtEVUg2UT4YnIbvrmf/qN+K3xekiE9H S74w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5mQ5C6ULL2IuK7o2jJjFXrWB+K9I3k7gGfnV35DwT/8=; b=DipUVF4CmxoKu36phtT5t+6afwyH2tbayhEKxYxZw+X65AYZvu8BGQ79GEDw9N7rdQ j5IvVxDYyOFUK3p5eHQP17/pKzs2Vng4eUxSeHpfiTMgEf6UiF+YHEPJt8mdHpwi4jwi PQpnIhndQgZyezYzlV83ujyXMDdehkNVaHRn752zmq/M13JDCeahW5zlYn4pJHIXfrqm TlRApgeU8bD+4aOYSXEV3/Kd7QxajrIwLedlqSmS3oJfBwuY1vJg2Jo5naGL5DBb+cmC fPE//1PrCwXvz2C2PWXq75K/8BP9FxXhAlVl4bMAtMEzh3tj0lsX64R+GuZ6yWmSJnH/ Jryg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIxvnguK6wtZbbga88ckXEWHx32MjLYaTE1RAeO04GgAWh2e1uxsp3LLFTS1YWWDWTJQC5BeviPi41a/g== X-Received: by 10.237.42.1 with SMTP id c1mr14044724qtd.10.1484254937650; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:02:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.152.197 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:02:17 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:02:17 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] sonic fiber test X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:02:18 -0000 A friend in SF just got sonic fiber installed. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8812475 One of the things that bugs me on nearly every test I do of an ISP, is the bloat doesn't start kicking in for ~22 seconds. Sure, it's totally reasonable here (about 50ms on the upload, but a very slow start seems to imply very small buffers doing this), but to me it's a continued reminder for more people and more test tools to test for more seconds, 'cause nobody actually only uses a network for only 21 seconds at a time. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! http://blog.cerowrt.org