From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BA9C3B29E for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 22:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id n12so8689792qkh.11 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:42:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FR+bfeRSgqXVXx/6oZ/Tko1lyIFvhrwPn86DGePkO78=; b=mnZW6rPSQE6rAfj+WnCxEHSuEwyyWRpRNOo/ZcF/01fQmSTXqkClLdr3xj6bT2Mndz rYPEBzf3wjuQDqAVDDtTOfEav+4olw6aoLK5IXApIetO6o7G7yS8qNIdLjPJdCDjz+4t BwmUFY9cmWsrNkiOBDN6GY4Als3v/QpyJcF9vGUoEBk3Fa50URKtnC2AorCLGOqWUB1q QeEPZBSvTX9GE4uFTx00JD7HpTRszGIqATggq1fm0V2Wzfdz7tYMq87zTPaGQmjXdCjv 2JPVsUErU37Mx171Cg6hHLIFna09nhXfMVsZwnJiWSSioRuwNdZJf/6ywAa3Qh90Z+/h +tdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FR+bfeRSgqXVXx/6oZ/Tko1lyIFvhrwPn86DGePkO78=; b=RPDq4Uyf4Dhqf/rXH4yJyNPNfN/MJWo9KFkh8/lDZaJHtJWdsD3VbTtN7vxmhGDfa1 uZkhR2RJI89idirRwd88G3NuctoHfYqBRyxcORrUZTHwuvm5KAbejfsI5QF+bmTFojCI kSkChGkqQl9FKn/gbUktnZFPyyazsZtlSFoDGYegD1fb+m7zhJOi56pBKB96ve5LMj+N DBih4EOW5ySPwRv2qNXa30HnTddVzrpYNeCrsuPJXp5MUUYZIrUpi1FdfuLJG5yA+J9L I+gtbENJIzewNKN+P+oKEe4mVu1KTDgaLbe7c7TXBJ8injRJ3NMv/CYJdI6uksXgsWRn QL9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWb6Oi+MZj+pVKAIXNs0zzkvhl/PDufUTR3VoMPajuFJfVvGiHRC WkKY2tpU6JsHRMR69sQtIFUwM4jDtT3pyc3T83JXtIau X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VEfcifUztuyv0UXmq/szIL5+AZkT7lra8chd5uWWaST05baqKLvG/q2ysbFRQTeaKdKOPF/JuUojgzBg2995k= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ee02:: with SMTP id i2mr14358152qkg.179.1545104552349; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:42:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:42:20 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat , BBR Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] bbr vs cubic network performance on high speed rail networks X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 03:42:33 -0000 It's really weird to worry about throughput and latency at 300km/h vs 350km/hr, being as the fastest US train I've ever been on rarely cracks 100kph. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1812.04823.pdf - the handover bit (section 5.2 and later) was pretty interesting. Round-trip-time (RTT). As shown in Fig. 6, BBR has more than twice lower RTTs than CUBIC (e.g., 191.53 ms versus 431.35 ms at 300 km/h, and 148.63 ms versus 345.02 ms at 350 km/h for median value) due to their different CCA design rationales: BBR intends to suppress the RTT to overcome the bufferbloat problem [24 --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740