From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05A393B47C; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 19:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id p188so205154897oih.2; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NfUZSkxA9ktxj/NPLnsP3Jk96uNn3T/lhi8tmFwIGM0=; b=jhLrB4nl9eDG/vBs1RM9jOWiOVW/BJPN8euq7PVTiY3dh/BakrqqYA3DBAzFRFiqPn VN/ywQyacrB2HKwo4v5DqK8YBhpxeE24hrhkaFNi0H9PwiGFEFmb+D/zpCASsGwtz5E5 hnzU0/bUBzhNbDLJCdFlF1eaSd/rPujgkg88j+LaT7S5yFs9MaTJB/gw4dEF15BR6H1/ nn3ndQW6rEsOa0aTmw//jbLxCa0LFlJHz5wO847Bwks+53Qw2RtoT41XZp2tKnkCp8T2 VnQB3mBTife4FcafiUgge5iOTlK86DQ+CHm9VUPeLEW+v3jV7Hf0cu/g2Js/fxYmKUQF Nk5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NfUZSkxA9ktxj/NPLnsP3Jk96uNn3T/lhi8tmFwIGM0=; b=MZocO+4FtrXYqwBATu9ZZ7cQNZ6x+QkqTR/AnhKs0WXZ2Skm8bcWh/CeqbVxwpkl9O ec8glMAkPkvB27tvw9s+iFfqW2oWSmNjc+zcxeknckVsX6Y7agtCdEBRzvDmrG7ttACB 6QznOGV5g6eOfdqUe+0tAFKeNwGf5IxzqVl+m5Hg665hQSIcNVzeX5O4vyBiUp5yN0g3 yBHhkx5up9a2s4etmH8ZbLZp1TDS/gtgGKggVkYCOyrYbjd6XesF+1etOiGlYVkdioOt xXI67InKqWxFmMv3t7ovJ01+JhyRGB6x6Yk/rWGTiPI1hrp6PBLoYpLJQSPEtoFId1rq Ojrg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWBgoA8U1n4AGlyWSn/fW7a6e1/xHu+0lF9RunaB+sDIRZtVV7+MTaMVMF4DLCpf7FSCElPiZEvDiCO7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.83.75 with SMTP id h72mr16602920oib.121.1461021052480; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.79.194 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:10:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] USB3 or HDMI ethernet? - Are wires dead? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:10:53 -0000 On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > I wanted to be able to do wifi aircaps at scale, So I figured I'd > load up a nuc with a bunch of usb wifi sticks. I got a w(hole bunch of > those - the horrors! the horrors that the drivers revealed... > > then I ran across the compute stick phenomenon, > > Holy cow, 59 dollars for an entire computer - with wifi on board. > > http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Compute-STCK1A8LFC-Z3735F-Ubuntu/dp/B00W7KAAB= K/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460990238&sr=3D8-1&keywords=3Dubuntu+comput= e+stick So I got one of these older models to play with. It came in a nice box. It was marvelous to plug the male hdmi port directly into my stereo A/V amp and have it automatically install and configure ubuntu 14.04LTS (kernel 3.16). It took a while to install itself, but after about 15 minutes of updating I had got it up and running. It's pretty neat as a desktop, not particularly fast, but once an app is loaded it's "good enough" for day to day work. I added a 19 dollar 32Gbyte SDHC card to use as my "home" directory, as there is only about 5GB usable on the stick itself (71% of the internal emmc used by default), bringing my total cost to under a hundred bucks. I played with it a bit... Sound doesn't work, which eliminates my musical use case (at least for now). I thought maybe this would be a good option for a midi controller, also, might try that. The wifi does ~10Mbits in my admittedly crowded spectrum. The linux log fills with all sorts of RTL871X debug messages, and the thing is about as bloated as the ath9k can be - 344-500ms delay on the up in netperf. The wifi is a realtek chip, ironically, I guess, intel couldn't fit one of their wifi cards into it: rtl8723bs And my original use case of having a compute stick I could use to sample the air with? So far with various tools I haven't been able to get a monitor interface to work. :( Overall it's kind of nice to have an intel architecture box that costs about the same as a tricked out raspberry pi. I'd like it if I could power it via a conventional usb port and network it that way, but haven't tried that yet. I am tempted to pick up one of the windows versions to play with. > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Save BoatyMcBoatFace from extinction by humorless science ministers! > https://twitter.com/hashtag/boatymcboatface --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! http://blog.cerowrt.org