* [Bloat] quic's spin bit proposal
@ 2017-12-12 20:46 Dave Taht
2017-12-15 17:06 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
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From: Dave Taht @ 2017-12-12 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
in reading this
https://blog.apnic.net/2017/12/12/internet-protocols-changing/
I stumbled across the "spin bit" idea being discussed in the ietf.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-trammell-quic-spin-00
In a world where quic is 7% of all traffic presently (wow, I didn't know)...
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* Re: [Bloat] quic's spin bit proposal
2017-12-12 20:46 [Bloat] quic's spin bit proposal Dave Taht
@ 2017-12-15 17:06 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
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From: Jesper Louis Andersen @ 2017-12-15 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Taht; +Cc: bloat
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:47 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
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> In a world where quic is 7% of all traffic presently (wow, I didn't
> know)...
>
>
BitTorrent's MicroTP (uTP) had about 15% at some point as well. This was
especially scary as:
* it used the then not-fully-understood LEDBAT congestion algorithm.
* the de-facto implementation wasn't too well understood and there no
competing implementations in order to understand interoperability.
* there were no formal process when it was created.
* for simplicty it dropped half-open connections. But implemented that in a
slightly faulty way.
I know, because I had an experiment where I did an Erlang-implementation of
the protocol.
At least QUIC seems to be getting some process now, which is good.
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