From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x235.google.com (mail-qt0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C5463B2A4 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 33so539323qtv.1 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:46:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IHUXnlS/ScJlD15aWydqg2HINoqGEKJmsJEdL2aaZWw=; b=VDCs2L2jLtQRlOx6mEzgvD7itzc2U3BnLiEi3bYPxNGYqtmZoqX+vaQ/OVMpvfM+1R f9btkAoBfdPL75qWAul6GHTAfU5J6/7RodFnETPw9QPsnJZ8z2pN40ghel8DT0sUDWzg kxOIbYyPxF/y6DdlynHnR1qO9bK3lfkvQ48DjnWJd8ePsRDSQgpLtbbC6OdFszIseeEu VS57f96KAkCqpuGzZO32qWrVp9JOZHzlYLa6NZWSDlcKdD6ta+7LX54xv9isPMxrOD0/ aE78nINXTSO6pTPouDpHWG++YKKU6eQ91dj6/ERvYkm+EYjUbjKpgTMzP1BTTkDZCY49 N7Mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IHUXnlS/ScJlD15aWydqg2HINoqGEKJmsJEdL2aaZWw=; b=fv8DG0eHCSjbgfSkxfKMboIxbzkOrXbvmklVKqTQ67WVaOS22RVQEJOKhLi2YhoH6w eosD9kHp75ABl7VQSmyoL7Gk66MGxWmbyLJIUuCTl36ezU3wRbdQK9PTdOPH+zwapTPu RVGmt5TmzgOLtKg5oP5MGjQ82oNSEZ7yfcI8Yv9SkTGYgz8VfiOA9kjusgqbMJhCq3wK BbSidRUX4D+4Ck5PwHhCbuDDp8YeJllG1b95fxErOAv0XHXK1v6ILCB90hdw6+hfSJVW PmliEEwwmJ4Y2VJ5VYaTvpl/Euw9aQu6uQ/rqgDSIuvKIddaU/YwazxSaYe7aNZt86SE UBrg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJzMk2Sr4IUU6WnO6kxQCgWoRPFREfgiRYx2csTnMrUY6VbTuoZ JoVqYzpc8RpQEPJ6LP8bMMyRLvnwVdGQdzZbjKT35Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosgjJWpKV3DG9P4b/Kw8PwplrsdzhJHAmevvlCE1VrS8m8CN/crCBFiaa/Cyqv+daZur2MK/cZiluOGxtz3abY= X-Received: by 10.200.48.51 with SMTP id f48mr7285249qte.262.1513111617090; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:46:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.193.93 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:46:56 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:46:56 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] quic's spin bit proposal X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:46:57 -0000 in reading this https://blog.apnic.net/2017/12/12/internet-protocols-changing/ I stumbled across the "spin bit" idea being discussed in the ietf. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-trammell-quic-spin-00 In a world where quic is 7% of all traffic presently (wow, I didn't know)..= . --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619