From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF6453CB38 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id g22so22808561iom.1 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2FFlbNhoeFVJm7Vvh52ikGNPfPIFC32lbjoXoi93CHI=; b=f0yXO1xfSHqYt1h3WhDxrcKWFUmgVmPgEDn0rO6TtEiWNjGkdlY1gkEJd2gnEGV7nq vmXyogtN8Q1hfOqyMkpFCAS2PZIBHTpfTy9wCSWaUXZ4EX9uXd9JzeXBZeBNnkq1BuFD +QK+FpZq+FEyLTN4UxpubBCClrnyjmwApywatadqMEoI1mON85i+Xkv6BnQFL47XesDe NqglUHIMc1VKvfAM6wsfXC37ji5Wv92juDjvisSoJz4QmQEpd+bbaJsY0l6+3XcPHSbt Y3ZwB/nFL5bEIQZ9ZyClxPDKm/fudAHvXlx39n9deTq66A1O+j3ui69yDD8z/zFay6kz EFrA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2FFlbNhoeFVJm7Vvh52ikGNPfPIFC32lbjoXoi93CHI=; b=phzopcVmNE9Omk0MUyuOKuo9u3UayR6zFMN7GTBuc/VS91IGPaQWwtkoixpmFVm4bT kk7ni9MH+gjHKxJpMPvkCFc+YEfOZ6yG+ZSV5Ep9+26UloV7I8X2ovnzGtkA6qqzqwMz vn1FEdosHbBsqqQZdXuEd/vFiIPMjQpuFhmUO05iGYnVHHj0jTLOb29LAlfKaMjxXka2 ceCvUc63e7pJKFAoLcCmb2weSghh6xj/wOi+oTVcFJExNH5aYW+/PJmpTzfwpBou5h0k mTCdtyzsTA/DASCM5mkmwXBlXaFr456JBU1es3CNOVX0QsGSpTGLx4lBOEQbSeOf1DS/ aNTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5325OchCJIX3NsXntL1kZqifzomVosmn2azyKSqrIhOElGZ1xas4 Dsk1OT+vKMIZ8fEnD72RRn3+uQDTfm5gt190IFg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzYMrvlVblAAjGG20zIREIhBELwpTqj7qaP32amg257ng7SiEdafvubhIoTNbCHH3FVM7XAvnHJRqc2KVgJngY= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6616:: with SMTP id a22mr13705501ioc.27.1625530154214; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 17:09:03 -0700 Message-ID: To: Matt Mathis Cc: Jonathan Morton , Stuart Cheshire , Christoph Paasch , bloat , Omer Shapira Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Credit and/or collaboration on a responsiveness metric? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2021 00:09:14 -0000 I would gladly work with you on refining the metric. ENOFUNDING but I have enough in the bank to last a while. But yes, it would also be nice to attract a student or two. On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 4:21 PM Matt Mathis via Bloat wrote: > > The rounds based responsiveness metric is awesome! There are several sl= ightly different versions, with slightly different properties.... > > I would like to write a little paper (probably for the IAB workshop), but= don't want to short change anybody else's credit, or worse, scoop somebody= else's work in progress. I don't really know if I am retracing somebody = else's steps, or on a parallel but different path (more likely). I would = be really sad to publish something and then find out later that I trashed s= ome PhD students' thesis.... > > Please let me know if you know of anybody else working in this space, of = any publications that might be in progress or if people might be interested= in another collaborator. > > Thanks, > --MM-- > The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Alan Kay > > We must not tolerate intolerance; > however our response must be carefully measured: > too strong would be hypocritical and risks spiraling out of c= ontrol; > too weak risks being mistaken for tacit approval. > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC