From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D76C3CB35; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 18:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id z12so2558085wrq.7; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 15:08:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BsFmjJSrB5s/MwHpL7WmvrzyCsJ/VBrXv8rCnLLs3lU=; b=TMmnDkf7JtpuOMBd3bKmMwculJTilbBGoxsXFqpQBGnrv8xyWffLBVnuGeBYNBZtfp Wk1atqv9Fybw2wB8r0OABNuIM6AEawYk1uDXI5TzHbJouM5iNmlhuepj1P8sOOYIcGZk 4Z6jXxqBBtYh9uhsrorTSkB5aPY1snKR8vRLluhl8UqSvSd624hWGxfk8J0rXOvKTk1c dOlUHn8BCpiMjXuUJT/RX3k4y4S06AZIYQQ299A88/GWvlN1TW5xtV1dha250BH/lV/b 420XbQ9/551kNANj1xskNbDtVYC2xQcBV0rDyldWqcpG8LEP7IuM6evdMIiDhAcLPrm0 AYbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BsFmjJSrB5s/MwHpL7WmvrzyCsJ/VBrXv8rCnLLs3lU=; b=eeOAIaFSCUe29b9M7W9tPPrqr7SWrpxPC6KcHgJI2OJUn3Eg7HRUuWLElkFeWxDsJw KLE+9ke05s+n9Wx7NTpnOwTMFUlFw61egZVen9jtkQvL5WxMQmTvfbX3Letw8FhfFu5I gJ+KGiygXcfwP8ezUXstWo2iEXn00E6Ftd3I1+vRYZTvfSGVOqzC50uOt3BUrWROKr0o nR5/xxyAU8/c0fPaRyYJM35haSJN4uXntBfyCBCXoT3f1Fm3+FUTV5i7YsV8WiwCiX30 s8XIQf8QryTmS1BS+bBjBn9dEHro6ojHgikr+KT3BfI4EpvgPIeOoLzuRaGXM6OjdaZG 40cA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/3t7gJbpAxgIMs8JhBZt/esA62m9oSGbQoZ24yCEhF8euZwTth H9FywbR1DebwdpQUe9tHeb2W+dkWz1j96rjzx10= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1uqqS2jgQ16T1x1VwDaNlTwJQG3jtl8LrHGLY0LnusPyKwUZv/MtJoXGyIxVXjGmsMnG4j6ofc6bQXsVkSNPNk= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5268:0:b0:21d:6c45:fe6 with SMTP id l8-20020a5d5268000000b0021d6c450fe6mr10042439wrc.380.1657404513567; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 15:08:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:08:20 -0700 Message-ID: To: zilim@ieee.org, gyn17@tsinghua.org.cn, qichen.sc@alibaba-inc.com, hongqiang.liu@alibaba-inc.com, xumw@tsinghua.edu.cn, wangbo2019@tsinghua.edu.cn, sherry@cs.cmu.edu Cc: Make-Wifi-fast , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] Achieving Consistent Low Latency for Wireless Real-Time Communications with the Shortest Control Loop X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2022 22:08:35 -0000 While I deeply appreciate y'all citing our work in this paper, https://zilimeng.com/papers/zhuge-sigcomm22.pdf it's not clear if the AP with your solution was actually fq_codeled[1]? We've also been battling a ton of regressions of late. PS It was good to see confirmation of long-tail latency at 99th percentile over 400ms in such a large study of gaming users. PPS Perhaps this paper would be of use? https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=3D8469111 [1] https://forum.openwrt.org/t/aql-and-the-ath10k-is-lovely/59002/621 --=20 FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_code= l/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC