From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FFE321F3AE for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbgp2 with SMTP id gp2so39543118obb.2 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:10:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mwMzdfg9aPTs5HQ8iwVbd4CKObwfhtFsKCSBypmVOdE=; b=aAXL1mFfuNgSounkBhZ4f0U3K+TNG4/A/8fugCCEgLT7NPeNJQATjpCIQK5SYYVZRQ xQxuFp/6UTCxFVHLUAmSMpKa8y0fPIdYOer8y41O4MLGyYOZ3xDHExqD9Xn3B9kJLRol IEE0zB3n6e5u2wWmwu5Zp2HrnSG0Rw9hoduNX2AhAF89p4QMhPKq7GN5et65UG+85IvC d51jB08dYFpzEfp1lhDqbl+NkqTXXEVIL8I/XXancufwmq784aN+CABRtDrv8NgvdRsM L8aKib734K4V//ktOvAkUepx3OUC5hyuvV2l2w31/eXXqL8Kfn+9zvL01/ZGHdHBrB+5 Xo2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.227.15 with SMTP id a15mr5623795oih.59.1434568232137; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.105.129 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:10:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] backbone loss statistics over the past 15 years or so? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:11:01 -0000 I am wondering if there is any long term loss statistics across the internet over a very long interval... for example does internettrafficreport.com have long term data? from an anecdote at: https://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=3D20150608072917905&board_id=3D11&m= odel=3DRT-AC68U&page=3D1&SLanguage=3Den-us "When I first started to work on the Internet at a little mom, and pop ISP when it first opened up in the 1990=E2=80=99s there was and still is a site called Internet Traffic Report [ http://www.internettrafficreport.com ]. Back then it was showing anywhere from 4% to 6% packet loss in North America. As the years rolled on some days it was at or above 10%. If you looked at Asia it was even worse. Now in 2015 I notice that it is at 0% packet loss worldwide. Looks like the big boys found a way to fight any connection speed, and buffer issues that where the cause of what was an ever increasing packet loss issue. My wish is that it would now make it all the way down to the end of the last mile. The issues with packet loss due to buffer bloat that are now at the end of the home and business connections I feel helps lead to the congestion issues we see during the high use periods at night. " --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast