From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82c.google.com (mail-qt1-x82c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 303DB3B2A4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 02:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x82c.google.com with SMTP id e5so963303qtr.12 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:55:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cigWjc90SgPE2hLItTxHXceMFZOr/CqiAXU/udUeM0k=; b=QGJXIfpV7ma/we3VqUGsGVg7SxW1gdOh21rqqXLs/GrzOKvmfJMaE/loAcr+/sEusK 8Jw9Ie3CUHsYDytby+2z5zN1XGZfQvyJKt5poximjp6xnQnWZx4nBYhlXlnc+EAZPCd3 ujCFrinEvUuhVIdcFDOnvGZGURB+WgcvLOXGuLRWjPhnulq8jyO8MOUfHuQmf8FiExsm AHsqjYzY0XaSoBx8XIM59CmUzZbBUyUrqO0/KPKy21l0D/HHxukQIbagwsR8xTpb95tC IvRh9qwuPRIYYk5SACZjzl9ixhoN/3Cjrd1Uvbmogf9BpLtdLn9wnKCm87CnXrcoj74E qZvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cigWjc90SgPE2hLItTxHXceMFZOr/CqiAXU/udUeM0k=; b=m0PwnwUFxSh6ez0p0eBgpeJSkUtpqt2AUH10sEppUBlv26Ig9xcosrw0AGDLOAV8Hb bW0KAH8gaV7gmV8hTVCAW2Eo2eVoboF9cr+7bTXkSIW7n8jqepVoJ8N9z5VIjrXi4JTB 2tiY4OBMWurnQifJqfAHwOkF8XA/4PC0ZlHA3fRjI+9nCmvuyzWzdB2+xOUhYD8Wfrc5 2LKMn4MkVI/IPrcronhpyn2i6MXMsrEVpDuJNCXd0KldydLtmIyu0x2wssvvbMy6bQJS tdTx6QfC7tyFdDZXARuQnZltnlc+xUrQ/5K9jYJu3RLhtbI4t18LRFn0L6cWBoypYQ4y Prcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZprK+020fyW/lfNxVkjfdk+IyaQSVAOfw09EUp6M5Zno4g6f7/ GpuEQeQdrbZTbNDvzsvUL6urkBwkWkR/IByerwc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/Uu+Ju3ceHvHVlUkBalhBC316BKhWilKHYjgbPMlq8T7aqcE/jwHiPtS/8l1zMQ8OwxBOhFzt09THi3zomzmTk= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:afd1:: with SMTP id t17mr412958qvc.93.1543478108630; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:55:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <65EAC6C1-4688-46B6-A575-A6C7F2C066C5@heistp.net> <86b16a95-e47d-896b-9d43-69c65c52afc7@kit.edu> <7e6cc6f4-bd2f-49b5-0f64-292f56a0592c@kit.edu> <878t1cwcvn.fsf@taht.net> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:54:55 -0800 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] when does the CoDel part of fq_codel help in the real world? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 07:55:09 -0000 On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:45 PM Jonathan Morton wr= ote: > > > On 29 Nov, 2018, at 9:39 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > =E2=80=A6when it is nearly certain that more than one flow exists, mean= s aiming > > for the BDP in a single flow is generally foolish. > > It might be more accurate to say that the BDP of the fair-share of the pa= th is the cwnd to aim for. Plus epsilon for probing. OK, much better, thanks. > - Jonathan Morton > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740