From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82d.google.com (mail-qt1-x82d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B5C53B2A4 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2018 12:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x82d.google.com with SMTP id q41-v6so16952686qtq.10 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pHjcXiJyrzFa3kDXID+NyyWgfWi653U3+sxb8OEYraw=; b=H0iHk+qv1KksN1n2a33B3fO5vOygCv7+R4/0Aj98kNyjsdMLJP8C5LlVCLHhrxv5HF dGzZYrCg7K29Z+oIwVtz5iguJHVGVlF7V7YvUk+hrvi61NFKp3DOXsy3zYHk7kQ56WYs gMpDNddV7uBshcUPUf/5KkgnJsE4pdD64Me06MnEVuUhtZ4ZzDHxBN4kNU1sqbJU6+0a 17Gj4F3ieF0wHYirYqj2rTNoLVodYByqt59hPaLgmAibSGKJXnhAP0otHGLzkhVr5keb 9M1mQuUy8cjq58jGKPMJIHBpXw0hs5bIK8cQkXd30Pc5gL/tsii/dhDxs5pBi5fCE6Qo 824w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pHjcXiJyrzFa3kDXID+NyyWgfWi653U3+sxb8OEYraw=; b=OTPeqer25luTMHfzknUyue+yEO1bCdjXN6rLcCa7YqT6OKzx6YsAS33d6uFBsdXeQq YNbmlZryGdi3CAfsMVt6/SfBeWka/JBHBCwGXaALoPbpODpHFDZD+HHj8g9Nopftrjq9 9UzVR7J6fmm3mgPzZmRQOd6m9oTBeC5aQsmKcqj0B+eKFqAo2ZNqdxQ3v7xKyHcQw6OK FcMwxTm4zGieMs0/168QfiKrQQCUnyC41zkNsmkQ1d/Xm7YD6kbcVJW4zBEy2c3yfClj 3bcUxBHBvNy2TcA2wUhZHUloM4xVtTDD4A0xh1k86bXyI2C3ONsuGeESdQyD0Q+pvawP H4hg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoh2ENiu8BcmAisUgO+N+56jiQuVCXb74sLqPVFkYuE6fJKeoTGt JKWMJ2NlWbLDqJXq5t6chrZC4yLEvOSeKlpKvV8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61mz3FQnYi2/FwmvOvFz7oKFRMa56TkyM/M3HjT7c17XlsVr6OLxiYvspyiDXJBl8ip3iQGrP1VhCoKUsGqXIY= X-Received: by 2002:aed:3847:: with SMTP id j65-v6mr4319265qte.171.1538842042072; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4be3777e-b056-eaea-a06e-34186958c179@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 09:07:07 -0700 Message-ID: To: Benjamin Cronce Cc: Jan Ceuleers , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] first bufferbloat free cablemodem? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2018 16:07:22 -0000 On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM Benjamin Cronce wrote: > > Quote from the link > "With 24 download and 8 upload channels, the Arris can get download speed= s of up to a gigabit if your plan offers it. I'm too cheap for that experie= nce right now, but its nice to have it as a possible option for the future.= Now for the pleasant surprise. With my previous modem/router combo, I usua= lly got D's and F's on the DSLreports.com speedtest which also measures buf= ferbloat. With the Arris, I consitently get A's and only an occasional B. W= hy should you care? Bufferbloat is high latency (or lag) that occurs when t= here's other traffic on your network. It can adversely affect streaming per= formance. Geeks have spent years developing router firmwares to combat it. = I adjusted nothing and tweaked no settings to get these results. This benef= it is not touted in any of the specs, but the test results speak for themse= lves. " Except that he didn't actually post those results. Certainly I expect pie, but I was praying also for inbound shaping. > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:10 AM Jan Ceuleers wrot= e: >> >> On 06/10/18 05:14, Dave Taht wrote: >> > I would so love for the review on this to be true. >> > >> > https://express.google.com/product/Arris-SURFboard-Cable-Modem-and-AC2= 350-Wi-Fi-Router-with-Arris-Secure-Home-Internet-by-McAfee/0_17937886568302= 066345_0 >> > >> >> Could you post a link that can be viewed from outside the US? >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740