From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it1-x12d.google.com (mail-it1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4282B3CB37 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 07:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-it1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id q19so12337598itk.3 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 04:51:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SpGdA+pcKj97lkydb1xWwaF31TOVV40teipO2VNslNE=; b=M7kIiT5E0x4NZEZ1QMNXP3NM1b+A3y90oAonEBVR4xYB0CSDZ/VOnp3vmkS4m6znEV IwDEp8Ec4jHwsvbLnIXMiXLNa00gsfVUunBi8VEPYi5GmlC/CZydnsbQt00GhvYUsuom XP+qCWbgQDMNCEjdTohgaew/A4vPgGwQu8Up191c9GtvSR5tGH4LKcSJ79/1WaLzeDhp z/CHHb0fxlaY22vemXBAN7rc9adJHVCj7AYufClac265qmcXE8pCs5gTq9cePeHgF/kK r8GsUag97DLsYmldSQJffCY07Wh4qANmP9JzyxEoVwzaqds9ZoPlIV7+JU6zlpr+Gn2w 1jpQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SpGdA+pcKj97lkydb1xWwaF31TOVV40teipO2VNslNE=; b=HfW18A1lAuLRRdDbZT+cNHKRkHywjibGLn/a3of5nDOT9rmlTAUuXGbe5MzHJ8/Py2 9u8Lo0ZW6Tx/5bcVWNSCgFuYjbKQuhg2/fnBrw2qaAGv24BcInWpEWw9sCBgox/rIcxB yJ9uRQq7lDya8JY7tctpSh2Lfnsp6eAzQU2Pbe5afw5ijwma7Gk+gb2RXjGA6Jgs6/LF LLIWsYvTpTinoaYXHmWvdr74DG2rKQoZfQOIbxzxiFlVybhX1S0G79tmtZP5AR/6WPz7 Fcj5L+koriQQHMs13CbKE/hvZsScIuM3U/JAuj4VrqZpzp5189TJO9SaAB5vVIriZN3r mmpg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXiGNvOrUme2KiDCpvPwTF7AamPFjibsZagCAn+/QwucuL2UOLX ckhhQ6lmMtHvu8qZC5a88C4l2aQmHsWwo+6di3U7dgD2BXWR2A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz46L1WcRjFh7Apd9upLbfwHVBPa3GH7Mi0EMQmzzk0e2HPnhj19Lzo4NnIAzuitUMySzKp2yIzvNGNo8vsW+A= X-Received: by 2002:a24:f68a:: with SMTP id u132mr15481260ith.45.1556452277392; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 04:51:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:51:05 +0200 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] dslreports test reports showing a lot of improvement this year X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:51:18 -0000 Lacking any way to get comprehensive data from the dslreports folk, what I've been doing has been taking a screenshot of the thing every so often, and sticking it in a presentation, and then comparing over = time. If you look at the third slide here, with data from 2018: http://www.taht.net/~d/sch_cake_ieee_lanman2018%20(2).pdf And then get a current report, things are really looking up! http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat?up=3D1 My problem is that I feel that the dslreports data is now seriously over-polluted by folk that use the site to tune up their routers with sqm/fq_codel/cake whatever, so I keep wondering what the real state O the world is. It is pretty obvious that upload speeds have been migrating upwards (without changing the buffer size), at least. I'm pretty sure docsis 3.1 modems have not deployed to a huge extent, so we're not seeing pie all that much. About the only way I can think of to actually track the fq_codel and cake deployments would be to start tracking ECE and ECN marks from apple gear. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740