From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DEB921F52B for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obctg8 with SMTP id tg8so18956118obc.3 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:49:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rB6iZ3g1VtTPceuZrfaV6Ps1apXGhwkt340nyj/xLeY=; b=ZUOhyNjZOsMPncMC5mkVfV9gDmQ2kG149z0QSARiB/Dfqv23NQ9+Bb/YGNk7DyoX9g aP2D8FAVtjhW7I8t/Ps0yBNwIGnFHXQNxh1CwebfExfVAKidyG77ajIBf8Max8Hib+y2 Lr6AGhmOiyeR3grnBCNxcq/QKNUEHewwErIDm6lYv4F3c+SvoWNa5V4YYLKeQEAOPDX8 aYd/ES6T00Cq0HBQ5rhqro8v7ZnEnp7b5g1FkKc5h1JSF0JovI/EWS/xgzEcGvlvlgeJ nTq1gJIP3og3+Q699UK5DqFVFD2IgSmWiC12iLfnnEprARZ8a/fcjA+8XGYMxSMVyDRb YGww== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.216.138 with SMTP id p132mr1489688oig.133.1434484159077; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.105.129 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:49:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] nearly 5 years of battling bufferbloat... and 15 years to go? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:49:48 -0000 We set out to boil an ocean, and it does appear to be, at least, steaming slightly. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/isp A top perspective from all the members of this effort as to: A) a review of what we are succeeding at. B) what we are failing at. C) what we should be prioritize in the future D) how it should be structured would be nice. 5 years from now, where should we be? How do we get there? What's the end state? Closing up shop entirely is also an option. There really aren't a lot of barriers to doing that, mostly moving good content into wikipedia, and getting the mailing list onto a stable server. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast