From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8430121F346 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id uz6so4360872obc.28 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:01:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ExHqojGH/GiRSKTOOb0NhdvgPUG9Y6MpHJoMkdloMGw=; b=Q+xT/TIzWNEnL8n43SN/GAmOgAxe2lP96NfV1/Isr3oe0flYeUnObxowTpXr7vx12g EotT6rMccUYqDrRLCeRmCYVQz9b0GzGq3v0ufGfP/XGczVJ87gvoQeO3SuvuLIXrAC5Z YjDT97z4xBBKg/FT1kBteENSA3tm06BA38BNk8T95PgeTWbTH6anDCxZ9jB5BDoBfohp nTwSJI9i4LyPG5bajmy1cTJYdYYcyRlz50VeaVibwMlEM2wX6SaxrwffWcxt9X315paJ jYP7pzbOpdC901sVXXa84EAh9WswF/LObeizsy3tYA9mBOaQyyM4M5NqrT/CzxO71pA8 MSyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.73.231 with SMTP id o7mr49684010obv.56.1408543288255; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.93.69 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:01:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <91696A3A-EF44-4A1A-8070-D3AF25D0D9AC@netapp.com> References: <91696A3A-EF44-4A1A-8070-D3AF25D0D9AC@netapp.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "Eggert, Lars" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] sigcomm wifi X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:01:30 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > On 2014-8-19, at 18:45, Dave Taht wrote: >> I figured y'all would be bemused by the wifi performance in the sigcomm >> main conference room this morning... >> >> http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/sigcomm_tuesday.png > > There is a reason we budgeted a 1G uplink for SIGCOMM Helsinki and made s= ure we had sufficient AP coverage... > > Lars My kvetch is mostly that here I am at a con that presents "revolutionary" congestion control algorithms every year, and I am watching preso after preso that talks about SDN using "commodity switches" and analyses that look at all this "big data"... ...and the entire conference is crippled from doing anything on the internet due to bad wifi... and nobody considered solving that problem "interesting"; they merely complained loudly to everyone in earshot about it. Near as I can tell there are no papers on wifi here. At one point there was 85% packet loss and the only thing that even halfway worked was mosh. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_= indecent.article