From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com (mail-qt0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8BC33BA8E for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 17:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id j7-v6so20035740qtp.2 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y2+pfaBxrxoHSznud7wetsIonCwngHujWdLCftAZ4fs=; b=MidVrc/36ujBWxnAy8ICdGqpSE03hnKdf9WS0DY7GknSusBx+kIjJtjvKTo/MNtcEY zF84+zE1QNM0cRmhMyDXZu0XomJOr+EYhJYzUfVKXumyNQknC63vK98RbEwVqcL/qrrh AhqDbUTBEEIPyS1fIz5kbCWKprhZX3rXaQYSdORuOM6/eCdr6gixq7IXKcnP67yZQ/PM Z+CjVTS9yqpaTviuPm0IhuNsER7dpG6dAQ0Lk9WhjmhOJhgI+4453wTPi26hN/OFcmHe ZWFBD+KGZXYYQpGO3WLNIF05y99oeFbUafaDpoTLAj6WxpZL6KQULmHq/rIcHo2tSFT2 XYjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y2+pfaBxrxoHSznud7wetsIonCwngHujWdLCftAZ4fs=; b=FUrD8nHNnTMQqXPkf1PFda5FP6vtNdwWVsrCi3RoAoPNJkVURJK26+fFux49S6xD27 h9fTKuTt92R25yDgg3VEdvOXJVwgKXJhTwjrvFqNK5yRbMDAuwX0sIOafmN8R8xr0yO1 sn3c4mPCy0RdVo6/Rr6ukHc0p7ShBOQOTbo6JRtB3A/uJjNpO4ZP6+Sd6iSCkh/HjGys +TNVeD24VVWi0KHTEAV5T5WIii1956Z6sYwEL0Z5/nsG65T52zuyqNPjWh0YvH4TqUls q19tl2mU4W6JSS6HZ1T5hRAQf5jaMsyFrTAjqiTDHSy8BS941Qdo1gFSpsygM5m6DJkG 9bDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BPTYasYM5XZcm5/N1ojNneIIR0hljUt3qWEr/uTXGWbnt8UI6w YIld16MGCX3/Bkn5v2Pbjjm2glgHSl7fRgMXJ/Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbnZr41yKoUSbqLsEZZpcUMCW2bf3AgQtXPiVobbugXfLIezfmoksMzIJEDKHaRHhjiFXnjJjuv84yTYvim5/g= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:8563:: with SMTP id n90-v6mr10010260qva.93.1536443932403; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <521EB406-0F8B-4043-A6ED-4C38B0B2B9D8@gmx.de> <089EB966-610A-4915-844D-CFC5DC4A7841@heistp.net> In-Reply-To: <089EB966-610A-4915-844D-CFC5DC4A7841@heistp.net> From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 14:58:40 -0700 Message-ID: To: Pete Heist Cc: Sebastian Moeller , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] fq_codel on macosx X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 21:58:53 -0000 On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 2:17 PM Pete Heist wrote: > > > On Sep 8, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 8:12 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > Jason Woringen just told me that macosx seems to include fq_codel now as = well as some involved priority queues that I can not make much sense of. It= might simply have inherited this from its freebsd underpinnings... > > > Wow. I had no idea. I know that they enabled tcp ecn universally last > year... but not fq_codel!! Holy cow! > > > Woah is right. It=E2=80=99s not in OS/X 10.11, but I also see it in 10.13= , so it was either added in 10.12 or 10.13. > > fq_codel: good enough for Apple, but not systemd. :) > Well I should probably write more on that subject than I already have. > Pete > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619