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From: Martin Geddes <mail@martingeddes.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat in high resolution + non-stationarity
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:57:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAAY2ahes8e8kZ7CHLNd7vngmJfdmX6qz7yLGzrKwhNFVkuZhw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874lpe8y2f.fsf@toke.dk>

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Hi Toke,

I'd really like to get it to be open source, and that's probably going to
take a collaborative industry funding effort to achieve as a reference
measurement implementation of a universal interoperable quality standard
(i.e. ∆Q-based metrics). There's a mathematical inevitability to the end
game of both metrics and scheduling, and we're very close to it.

In the meantime, I can give you a trial version to play with. How about you
give it a spin and share your feedback here of what you learned?

Martin

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On 28 November 2017 at 11:03, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:

> Martin Geddes <mail@martingeddes.com> writes:
>
> > The two critical references are this paper
> > <http://www.pnsol.com/public/TP-PNS-2003-09.pdf> and this PhD thesis
> > <https://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/pubs/2003/1892/>. The former describes
> > "cherish-urgency" multiplexing. The "cherish" is what is different to
> > today's scheduling. It is used to create a new class of algorithm
> > whose goal is global optimisation, not local optimisation (and global
> > pessimisation).
>
> Cool, thanks; I'll add that to my reading list (well, the paper
> certainly; not sure I'll get the time to go through the whole 200+ page
> thesis anytime soon :/)
>
> > The latter describes a paradigm change from "build it and then reason
> > about emergent performance" to "reason about engineered performance
> > and then build it". It works in practise
> > <http://www.martingeddes.com/how-wales-got-the-first-internet-fast-lane/
> >,
> > so whether it works in theory is left as an exercise to the reader.
>
> I don't suppose there's an open source implementation available to play
> with?
>
> -Toke
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-28 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-25 20:23 Martin Geddes
2017-11-26 12:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-27 23:16   ` Martin Geddes
2017-11-27 23:55     ` Dave Taht
2017-11-28  2:07       ` Aaron Wood
2017-11-28 11:03     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]       ` <CAJq5cE3rWztd0f307bb-3H_tp5pvaHX_7Vp++PiwcU1X5eB_BQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAJq5cE2jqAzAWoQB+3b9smq4ZvmBLoC5xE3oFYcQ+OVB+JCYgg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-28 16:16           ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-30 12:31             ` Neil Davies
2017-11-30 16:51               ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-30 19:59                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-11-30 20:09                   ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-01  9:06                     ` Michael Welzl
     [not found]                       ` <CAJq5cE2_aiiJGdPOHQnEbfOqPVKLRP05AW1X6XLwSNaU233h=w@mail.gmail.com>
2017-12-01 13:48                         ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-28 23:57       ` Martin Geddes [this message]
2017-11-29 11:57         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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2017-10-11 13:00 Martin Geddes
2017-10-16 20:26 ` Dave Taht

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