From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from m42-5.mailgun.net (m42-5.mailgun.net [69.72.42.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE1B53B2A4 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2020 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flamingpc.com; q=dns/txt; s=pic; t=1585376731; h=Content-Type: To: Subject: Message-ID: Date: From: MIME-Version: Sender; bh=u28g2XemZIVLI060PryLtVSrbxIl82CNC4EAQWigw8E=; b=WbAxah6gbpfDHx1r39UV1lzYvksg0XkonhGkuTeCiiUnZnrEbvWH3W4AKRVRdQyzNe6R4IR6 zHc+KjzkK9Zcc44V+lGtg2FPONlXe/9yQ6yg7Vd3v5deC1WvQqLdWZthtfqff9GLHupGAbNw DwFe3Dlx5MKJoFXscHbWxG/wmNY= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 69.72.42.5 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJiMjA5OSIsICJibG9hdEBsaXN0cy5idWZmZXJibG9hdC5uZXQiLCAiNjY0ODllNyJd Sender: bufferbloat@flamingpc.com Received: from mail-wm1-f49.google.com (mail-wm1-f49.google.com [209.85.128.49]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5e7eedda.7fafa71a4670-smtp-out-n04; Sat, 28 Mar 2020 06:25:30 -0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 26so11655687wmk.1 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ0qHVTPsK/oCh9HJM4CMcH1lZtfYFeUcrpAmh7B/AdAAi8Bw413 T2o7PAyHOlhU3Sc9aiYCVSESTdDyxu9AHLURMuA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vs9XiDImRamtrBHljYFkxc3F+UVvMQHjSWSD/YQbKEzro7hxuGPbUCivvUi0EffYF1ft9xY4JuBRA+BDcxR+Ng= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c08a:: with SMTP id r10mr2380222wmh.120.1585376728432; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:25:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: cloneman Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 02:25:16 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bbc79f05a1e448e7" Subject: [Bloat] Windows 10 updates multhread limit Feature request to Microsoft X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 06:25:31 -0000 --000000000000bbc79f05a1e448e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I don't know if the Windows 10 updates multithreading problem is still relevant for many users, but it certainly still affects me as user with low bufferbloat, low latency, and only moderate bandwidth (50mbit , 4ms idle, ~9ms loaded) In any case, I have submitted official feedback to microsoft, as I've exhausted any possible workarounds on my end short of implementing a Windows update cache server on my LAN (go figure, apparently the cache servers download with a small number of threads). After posting this link -- I'm done advocating for this issue. I think valve steam has made some improvements, they still use many threads, but somehow, it doesn't create as many issues.There seems to be no interest in most discussion forums to explore this with any depth -- or even admit that 20 connections to 1-2 servers is problematic. Feedback hub link https://aka.ms/AA7zg1r --000000000000bbc79f05a1e448e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know if the Windows 10 updates multithreading = problem is still relevant for many users, but it certainly still affects me= as user with low=C2=A0bufferbloat, low latency, and only=C2=A0moderate ban= dwidth=C2=A0(50mbit , 4ms idle, ~9ms loaded)

In any case, I have sub= mitted official=C2=A0feedback to microsoft, as I've exhausted any possi= ble workarounds on my end short of implementing=C2=A0a Windows update cache= server on my LAN (go figure, apparently the cache servers download with a = small number of threads).

After posting this link -- I'm do= ne advocating for this issue. I think valve steam has made some improvement= s, they still use many threads, but somehow, it doesn't create as many = issues.There seems to be no interest in most discussion forums to explore t= his with any depth -- or even admit that 20 connections to 1-2 servers is p= roblematic.



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