On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:48 PM, David Collier-Brown wrote: > A short RFC with a clear summary would change the ground on which we stand. > Include me in if you're planning one. > > --dave > > There are some RFCs that vendors uses for throughput testing, RFC2544 I have seen on a few Firewall vendors datasheets atleast, not seen any reference RFC3511. Pedro > > On 28/11/16 01:00 AM, Jan Ceuleers wrote: > >> On 28/11/16 03:16, Jim Gettys wrote: >> >>> Ookla may have made themselves long term irrelevant by their recent >>> behavior. When your customers start funding development of a >>> replacement (as Comcast has), you know they aren't happy. >>> >>> So I don't sweat Ookla: helping out the Comcast test effort is probably >>> the best way to get bufferbloat in front of everyone, and best yet, the >>> code for the tests is out there. >>> >> I do hope you're right Jim, but I still worry that Ookla is heavily >> entrenched in carriers' test labs. This position has, I believe, come >> about not because of Ookla's expertise in network testing but rather >> because of market pull (i.e. speedtest.net's huge popularity with >> end-users). >> >> As long as both of these positions remain (i.e. Ookla's mind share of >> end-users and their resulting market share in the labs of large >> purchasers of CPE) their lack of interest in bufferbloat is going to >> keep this topic off the agenda in a large part of the industry. >> >> Unless Ookla can be coerced somehow. >> >> I have previously suggested standardising network throughput testing >> methods and "grading" criteria. If there's an RFC on this subject >> carriers are going to be interested in conformance to it and will >> pressure their suppliers (of network testing gear, of CPE etc). >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> > > > -- > David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify > System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest > davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > -- Best regards / Mvh Jan Pedro Tumusok