From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ig0-x22f.google.com (mail-ig0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F30121F56F for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iget9 with SMTP id t9so43743400ige.1 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0yjs/z+LVPL5yMA3F8ov9gKAMVq11PQ6dGtXCS8vpTE=; b=A9HTQPIMo7K4BCL+3L7WHq2obq++iFXGMhALvuh0+3vZn6yIpORq/q3px9G4XY5UUF up2yXIxr1xI8nXh5plWbluMSvvKpzQWAZuVA/sCh+/lxzIzJhmJsKcEJQv89vJU6kIOr FqMiOUDJHzfGkiy4JNCi5ul2br1LKNCHRX/L/SkWkikwe6D5n8fA36GluXBsWPlr2tkR J3TEfQmsbHPvrD/rQpiMWQtQuZ3KTg9kpqHf/5agUrMk64gslfVcMHqVB5K/F7KVyacb ioLsTeCtisNsv4vulxe11WOup7bC7AXHuCyC8XMe31rGivgjJ3Cv4/knSFv6cPQIBCmQ KQEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.171.70 with SMTP id nt6mr10195981icc.73.1429385068178; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.131.66 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.131.66 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150418191151.GA21021@sesse.net> References: <20150418191151.GA21021@sesse.net> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ketan Kulkarni To: "Steinar H. Gunderson" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2e33e3c7406051404a564 Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat in switches and routers X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 19:24:57 -0000 --001a11c2e33e3c7406051404a564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Steinar. I do have some follow up questions. Thanks Ketan On Apr 18, 2015 12:12, "Steinar H. Gunderson" wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:07:26PM -0700, Ketan Kulkarni wrote: > > I think we would have similar concerns for switches and routers. (E.g. > > cat3k switches or Cisco 5760 controllers just to name) > > For Cat3k switches, I can assure you there's no bufferbloat -- they are badly > underbuffered. > Generically does that mean bufferbloat is the problem predominantly seen for the cable industry? Also otherwise how do we go about finding the devices other than home routers for the bloating levels? Cat3k was just an example. There are series of numerous other routers by many vendors. > /* Steinar */ > -- > Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --001a11c2e33e3c7406051404a564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

Thanks Steinar.
I do have some follow up questions.

Thanks
Ketan

On Apr 18, 2015 12:12, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <sgunderson@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:07:26PM -0700, Ketan Kulkarni wrote:
> > I think we would have similar concerns for switches and routers. (E.g.
> > cat3k switches or Cisco 5760 controllers just to name)
>
> For Cat3k switches, I can assure you there's no bufferbloat -- they are badly
> underbuffered.
>
Generically does that mean bufferbloat is the problem predominantly seen for the cable industry?

Also otherwise how do we go about finding the devices other than home routers for the bloating levels?

Cat3k was just an example. There are series of numerous other routers by many vendors.

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