One thing I've been seeing is way too many articles basically talking about traffic increases (or not), and how many are videoconferencing from home... but no metrics of import to videoconferencing folk. I've been engaged in a conversation about increasing a certain videoconferencing platform's default jitterbuffer to... wait for it... *1 sec* - based on how badly LTE was performing for some people
so if you control your own videoconferencing tools, collecting more metrics there would be usef
One very interesting metric a netflix streamer could be collecting is differences in tcp RTT (assuming you slowed traffic down in europe, especially, to a lower quality?), hour by hour, day by day.
All good points and I generally agree with your observation on lack of good resources/recommendations to improve latency-sensitive network interactions, especially as those are becoming critical for the users.
I hope we'll be able to share some of the findings/observations/recommendations based on our experience (white paper, blog etc), but no hard promises at this point.

SERGEY FEDOROV

Director of Engineering

sfedorov@netflix.com

121 Albright Way | Los Gatos, CA 95032




On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:27 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:15 PM Sergey Fedorov <sfedorov@netflix.com> wrote:
Hi folks,

No need to put more pressure - I've seen Jonathan's suggestion and it makes a lot of sense to add the option to deep-link to an expanded version with all detailed parameters shown.
This will be added some time this quarter (Q2), but not within a few next weeks.

that's wonderful, thanks!

One thing I've been seeing is way too many articles basically talking about traffic increases (or not), and how many are videoconferencing from home... but no metrics of import to videoconferencing folk. I've been engaged in a conversation about increasing a certain videoconferencing platform's default jitterbuffer to... wait for it... *1 sec* - based on how badly LTE was performing for some people

so if you control your own videoconferencing tools, collecting more metrics there would be usef

One very interesting metric a netflix streamer could be collecting is differences in tcp RTT (assuming you slowed traffic down in europe, especially, to a lower quality?), hour by hour, day by day.

another one is packet loss... retransmits...



SERGEY FEDOROV

Director of Engineering

sfedorov@netflix.com

121 Albright Way | Los Gatos, CA 95032




On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:00 PM Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
Confirmed, and I go there all time as well, you’d think it would be the first thing Google would show us.

At least Fast.com is on the first page, but they don’t pro-actively show latency tests, especially on the upload.

BTW- I’ve suggested they support a URL request format where we can pre-set options that engage and show results for the bloat tests. This way we can share that pre-formated link and the users who click on it immediately see a bloat metric.
Maybe if a few more suggest this as well, it will climb in priority.

- Jonathan

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> dslreports.com is only on the third page of the search results.
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