From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 031F03B29D for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 11:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id e18so1631306iog.9 for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 08:54:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netflix.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IXfe7nZiyUslAg0z8idSWi9LakUgvOHOlxFVjS6/JDw=; b=myuKYtNKRPkzh/ZzY/Si81cEUYdUEsyXbefwRM+JhRHhNfFPs5NcZnp778fZcF7loD vwQjNdNuXaTzfCoAdy1I9CUc46meZGhOuxb/NrlKehFZCeFHyqrrtyv2zl+MHDkh7IBD EODQY1iJLET+kmExnt1b+24Cj8j9pm5Bq1prI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IXfe7nZiyUslAg0z8idSWi9LakUgvOHOlxFVjS6/JDw=; b=YVBQJRyneuJArR0BS26ORIKhKuZAMBMVLptGnRSbJvAopCeZ3aG5/QJUxeqMf5xW4S QewMp7YvpTEz+0hiu2M79kaikMk2mRrnwtoONrXXcr9dPwMPtLNe7iJNLssCWtiVyEl5 o9ogFrbeU/fifZIlK0ljZMutQdseRiO5P4SWEpfP6gJsCjRohIUn+bUr7m6MYE3WbUn/ 4lc85QDU/sU5x89MvfJLWVOEDEq+i195COAkbqe6BQq++1PhjPd0stju+5V2emqpEzAB F/H/7a8nmdfBYQey/YyCwUx9MG6S1OfdvqUfczaMXJ16cGBCiGAmyBUWBQIiSbKhPy/M mhCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubeuoRjWtn27g9I5VycjDnH2blS8LB2p1CHn8enyCjA5OqoAGEg PHyvelzjBTMbIwrxEPKYX+cPS+qMHMbsDMbvozvrtwdjEBM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypL2kGM0ddJygDnhBF3wPv9PNSupk6m/ljdD+7d/Q34NCmbS2Z5sTvCXo1LdUgs8Lc22GTLkOlAaJE5Mbin/qyI= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6b04:: with SMTP id g4mr6487404ioc.75.1589298873371; Tue, 12 May 2020 08:54:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2F8B9D4D-2FC3-4B04-BC49-4F8E597B22DF@gmail.com> <825226E1-AA0D-46C6-8E71-2037D995EB71@jonathanfoulkes.com> In-Reply-To: <825226E1-AA0D-46C6-8E71-2037D995EB71@jonathanfoulkes.com> From: Sergey Fedorov Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 08:53:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Bloat] dslreports is no longer free To: Jonathan Foulkes Cc: Rich Brown , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca6f5d05a5757ab3" X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 15:54:34 -0000 --000000000000ca6f5d05a5757ab3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi folks, Just wanted to thank you for the feedback and suggestions. And give an FYI that the URL deep-linking, separate upload loaded latency requests have been accepted (as also previously mentioned by others) and will be worked on, likely this quarter. Others - like graphs of historical measurements, splits/breakdowns - are interesting and I clearly see the use for the advanced users (including myself), but will require more thought to productize. SERGEY FEDOROV Director of Engineering sfedorov@netflix.com 121 Albright Way | Los Gatos, CA 95032 On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 12:59 PM Jonathan Foulkes wrote: > Hi Rich, good suggestion, seconded! > > Hopefully Sergey can have this incorporated when they make the updates for > a URL that triggers a full featured test from the beginning. > > Cheers, > > Jonathan > > On May 7, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > > A request to Sergey, > > As a long-time lurker on this list, I lament the passing of DSLReports, > and applaud Netflix for incorporating latency measurements into its > Fast.com page. > > However, I have always been vaguely unsettled that "Show more info" > displays a single latency value for the two separate "processes" - > downloading and uploading - and the fact that uploading seems to overwrite > the download value. > > I imagine that you have already considered this but I have come to realize > that simply displaying separate values for these latencies would address my > unease - something along the lines of this photoshopped screen shot. > > Thanks again for providing the Fast.com service - it's useful for me > every day. > > Rich Brown > > PS Yes, my DSL download speed really is < 1mbps today. Dratted ISP... > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --000000000000ca6f5d05a5757ab3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,

Just wanted to thank you for = the feedback and suggestions. And give an FYI that the URL deep-linking, se= parate upload loaded latency requests have been accepted (as also previousl= y mentioned by others) and will be worked on, likely this quarter.
Others - like graphs of historical measurements, splits/breakdowns - are = interesting and I clearly see the use for the advanced users (including mys= elf), but will require more thought to productize.

<= p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><= span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(67,67,67);vertical-align:baseline= ;white-space:pre-wrap">SERGEY FEDOROV

= Director of Engineering

sfedorov@netflix.com

121 Albright Way | Los Gatos, CA 95032



On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 12:59 PM Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
=
Hi Rich, =C2=A0good suggestion, seconded!

Hopefully Sergey can have this incorporated when they make the updates f= or a URL that triggers a full featured test from the beginning.
<= br>
Cheers,

Jonathan=C2=A0

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
On May 7, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gm= ail.com> wrote:

A request to Sergey,

As a long-time lurker on this list, I lamen= t the passing of DSLReports, and applaud Netflix for incorporating latency= =C2=A0measurements into its=C2=A0Fast.com=C2=A0page.

However, I have always been vaguely uns= ettled that "Show more info" displays a single latency value for = the two separate=C2=A0"processes" - downloading and uploading - a= nd the fact that uploading seems to overwrite the download value.=C2=A0
=
I imagine that you have already considered this but I have come to real= ize that simply displaying separate values for these=C2=A0latencies would a= ddress my unease - something along the lines of this photoshopped screen sh= ot.

Thanks again for providing the=C2=A0Fast.com=C2=A0service - it's useful for me every = day.

Rich Brown

PS Yes, my DSL download speed really is < = 1mbps today. Dratted ISP...

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