[Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

Disclaimer: I don't think this is the right list, but I can't find
another.  If not, please direct me to the right place, thanks.

First off: I've been running dd-wrt on a WRT54G router for some time,
but wanted to upgrade to something better.  So I'm aware in general of
how to flash routers, etc.  I remember that dd-wrt was a two-step
process: step 1 to wipe out the old firmware and install a simple FTP
client (?), and step 2 to actually upload the code into the router.
Step 1 only needs to be done to wipe out the factory firmware.

My WNDR3700v2 is brand new, I've been using the factory firmware for a
couple of days:

  Hardware Version        WNDR3700v2
  Firmware Version        V1.0.0.8
  GUI Language Version    V1.0.0.67

I am running a Windows 7 system, and I'm using tftp (Cygwin) to try to
push the CeroWRT code into the router.  It's not working.  I refer to
items 6-8 from:

    http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions

6.  Hold down the "factory reset" button on the bottom of the router.

7.  Turn on the router. Light 1 will light up green; the connection
light will light up yellow, flash yellow, turn green, then flash
green. This takes over a minute.

8.  Release reset button

My router has a submerged "restore factory defaults" button on the
bottom, surrounded by some red/orange paint.  This is the button I'm
holding down to reset the router per the instructions above.
Regarding "the connection light will light up yellow...", on my
router, it's the POWER light (the first one) that is going through
that sequence.  The LED corresponding to my LAN connection remains
solid green.  The sequence completes in about 45 seconds, thought I've
tried up to 90 seconds.  When done, the power light is flashing green,
and the LAN connection is solid green.

I can ping the router at 192.168.1.1 from my PC.  Using tftp, if I try
to put the image, I get a timeout.  I turned on "binary" and "verbose"
and when I put the image, tftp says the image was transferred
successfully.  Then I wait.  And wait.  I've tried this a couple of
times, waiting up to 10 minutes each time.  I never see the status
lights change per item #13 at the URL above:

13.  A good indicator of completion is a steady green or yellow light
for the port you cabled to, together with a steady green power light
and steady green or blue wireless lights.

When I gave up and powered off/on the router, I still got the Netgear
GUI, so the CeroWRT code isn't going in.

What am I doing wrong?  I'm sure it's something simple.

Thanks - Jim

p.s. I note that the "CeroWrt 'Ocean City' INSTALLATION GUIDE" says:

"Please see the Cerowrt flashing instructions for how to install the
current CeroWrt build on your Wndr3700v2 Router from your platform of
choice (windows, osx, linux)."

However, the flashing instructions are for Linux, Mac and "From the
router" only.  I tried to load the image through the Netgear GUI, but
got a failure message, something along the lines of the image was NG.
I don't know of that's a supported kind of upload or not.

-- 
Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us

Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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Hi Jim,

I had exactly the same problem with my WNDR3800. Seems like those flashing
instructions are broken.

What I ended up doing is:
1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/
)
2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows to
continue)
3. another 30-30-30
4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
5. profit!


Thanks,
Max

On 3 November 2011 10:20, Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Disclaimer: I don't think this is the right list, but I can't find
> another.  If not, please direct me to the right place, thanks.
>
> First off: I've been running dd-wrt on a WRT54G router for some time,
> but wanted to upgrade to something better.  So I'm aware in general of
> how to flash routers, etc.  I remember that dd-wrt was a two-step
> process: step 1 to wipe out the old firmware and install a simple FTP
> client (?), and step 2 to actually upload the code into the router.
> Step 1 only needs to be done to wipe out the factory firmware.
>
> My WNDR3700v2 is brand new, I've been using the factory firmware for a
> couple of days:
>
>  Hardware Version        WNDR3700v2
>  Firmware Version        V1.0.0.8
>  GUI Language Version    V1.0.0.67
>
> I am running a Windows 7 system, and I'm using tftp (Cygwin) to try to
> push the CeroWRT code into the router.  It's not working.  I refer to
> items 6-8 from:
>
>
> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions
>
> 6.  Hold down the "factory reset" button on the bottom of the router.
>
> 7.  Turn on the router. Light 1 will light up green; the connection
> light will light up yellow, flash yellow, turn green, then flash
> green. This takes over a minute.
>
> 8.  Release reset button
>
> My router has a submerged "restore factory defaults" button on the
> bottom, surrounded by some red/orange paint.  This is the button I'm
> holding down to reset the router per the instructions above.
> Regarding "the connection light will light up yellow...", on my
> router, it's the POWER light (the first one) that is going through
> that sequence.  The LED corresponding to my LAN connection remains
> solid green.  The sequence completes in about 45 seconds, thought I've
> tried up to 90 seconds.  When done, the power light is flashing green,
> and the LAN connection is solid green.
>
> I can ping the router at 192.168.1.1 from my PC.  Using tftp, if I try
> to put the image, I get a timeout.  I turned on "binary" and "verbose"
> and when I put the image, tftp says the image was transferred
> successfully.  Then I wait.  And wait.  I've tried this a couple of
> times, waiting up to 10 minutes each time.  I never see the status
> lights change per item #13 at the URL above:
>
> 13.  A good indicator of completion is a steady green or yellow light
> for the port you cabled to, together with a steady green power light
> and steady green or blue wireless lights.
>
> When I gave up and powered off/on the router, I still got the Netgear
> GUI, so the CeroWRT code isn't going in.
>
> What am I doing wrong?  I'm sure it's something simple.
>
> Thanks - Jim
>
> p.s. I note that the "CeroWrt 'Ocean City' INSTALLATION GUIDE" says:
>
> "Please see the Cerowrt flashing instructions for how to install the
> current CeroWrt build on your Wndr3700v2 Router from your platform of
> choice (windows, osx, linux)."
>
> However, the flashing instructions are for Linux, Mac and "From the
> router" only.  I tried to load the image through the Netgear GUI, but
> got a failure message, something along the lines of the image was NG.
> I don't know of that's a supported kind of upload or not.
>
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>



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Thanks,
Max

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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:

> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows to continue)

This is interesting:

    http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/wndr3700

"OEM installation using the TFTP method

"However, note that the router will not accept the firmware when the
filename is too long! Using firmware.img as filename should work."

I wonder if this is the problem.  I'll try this first, then try the
OpenWRT-as-intermediate-step method if this doesn't work.

- Jim

-- 
Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us

Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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I tried tftp-ing many times and also tried renaming the firmware to o.img -
it didn't help at all.
It's worth noticing though that I tried jffs2 firmware initially (as per
the original instructions).
When it didn't work, I downloaded OpenWRT beta for WND3800, which happen to
be a squashfs image, so decided to stick to squashfs, uploaded squashfs
CeroWRT image and it worked.
I've never tried tftp-ing squashfs image, maybe it will work straight away?
It requires more experimenting to figure out what was the problem.


Max

On 3 November 2011 11:14, Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>
> > 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows
> to continue)
>
> This is interesting:
>
>    http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/wndr3700
>
> "OEM installation using the TFTP method
>
> "However, note that the router will not accept the firmware when the
> filename is too long! Using firmware.img as filename should work."
>
> I wonder if this is the problem.  I'll try this first, then try the
> OpenWRT-as-intermediate-step method if this doesn't work.
>
> - Jim
>
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us
>



-- 
Thanks,
Max

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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:

> What I ended up doing is:
> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/)
> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows to
> continue)
> 3. another 30-30-30
> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
> 5. profit!

I'm up!  Thanks, Max!

I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.

-- 
Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us

Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Shane Turner]

I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be 
flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?

http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img
or
http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img

In what way did you deviate from the procedure at 
http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions 
to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to 
flash to OpenWRT first?

Shane

On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>
>> What I ended up doing is:
>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/)
>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows to
>> continue)
>> 3. another 30-30-30
>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>> 5. profit!
>
> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>
> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>

Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Dave Taht]

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Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is as
good a place as any, at least for now)

I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:

the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory firmware
installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the factory
web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.

The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of openwrt,
cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.

JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do lots of
development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise squashfs
saves space.

I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have.
(bugs, features on the wiki please)

but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I try
to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7 itself
out in ~2 weeks...

but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too much
(and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm going to
slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.

What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm relatively
happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which is
proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a
sane classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have
more of a grip on that at the moment.

Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to your
laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! - fixing
your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
bloat everywhere you can.





On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:

> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
>
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/**~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-**
> smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-**generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-**factory.img<http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/%7Ecero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img>
> or
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/**~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-**
> smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-**generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-**factory.img<http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/%7Ecero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img>
>
> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
> http://www.bufferbloat.net/**projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_**
> flashing_instructions<http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions>to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to flash
> to OpenWRT first?
>
> Shane
>
>
> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>>
>>  What I ended up doing is:
>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/**article/18623/How-to-Hard-**
>>> Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/<http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/>
>>> )
>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows
>>> to
>>> continue)
>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>>> 5. profit!
>>>
>>
>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>>
>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>>
>>  ______________________________**_________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/**listinfo/bloat<https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat>
>



-- 
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SKYPE: davetaht
US Tel: 1-239-829-5608
FR Tel: 0638645374
http://www.bufferbloat.net

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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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Hi Dave,

Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck (file
transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800, don't
know.
After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image. Did
you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?

First impressions:
* Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
* Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
cd-rom.
   If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial device,
but cannot do anything with it.
* DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
uses DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes. Meanwhile I installed
dibbler-client, but can't run it: "can't load library 'libposlib.so.1'"
   When I connected the router to my main ipv6 enabled router, it was able
to pick the ipv6, but something still wrong with the dns - it only works
for ipv4. Not sure exactly what is happening.


Thanks,
Max



On 4 November 2011 03:22, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is as
> good a place as any, at least for now)
>
> I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:
>
> the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory firmware
> installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the factory
> web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.
>
> The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of openwrt,
> cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.
>
> JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do lots
> of development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise squashfs
> saves space.
>
> I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
> while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have.
> (bugs, features on the wiki please)
>
> but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
> good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I try
> to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7 itself
> out in ~2 weeks...
>
> but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too
> much (and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm going
> to slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.
>
> What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm relatively
> happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
> trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which is
> proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a
> sane classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have
> more of a grip on that at the moment.
>
> Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to your
> laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! - fixing
> your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
> bloat everywhere you can.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca>wrote:
>
>> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
>> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
>>
>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/**~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-**
>> smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-**generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-**factory.img<http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/%7Ecero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img>
>> or
>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/**~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-**
>> smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-**generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-**factory.img<http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/%7Ecero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img>
>>
>> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/**projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_**
>> flashing_instructions<http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions>to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to flash
>> to OpenWRT first?
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>>>
>>>  What I ended up doing is:
>>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/**article/18623/How-to-Hard-**
>>>> Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/<http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/>
>>>> )
>>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows
>>>> to
>>>> continue)
>>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>>>> 5. profit!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>>>
>>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>>>
>>>  ______________________________**_________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/**listinfo/bloat<https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> SKYPE: davetaht
> US Tel: 1-239-829-5608
> FR Tel: 0638645374
> http://www.bufferbloat.net
>
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>
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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Petri Rosenström]

Hi Maxim,

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
> work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck (file
> transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800, don't
> know.
You probably mean rc7-smoketest6, because rc6 doesn't include image
for the wndr3800. I didn't get the wndr3700v2 images to work they
required the small patch for it to work.

> After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image. Did
> you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?

You should have could used it, if you tried from the webinterface. I
at least was successful with this. btw. I run jffs2 image.

I have only had a few issues, but I hope that are already fixed. I
just have to tests it. My issues are related to bug 291. This patch
might be in rc7-smoketest8.

>
> First impressions:
> * Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
> router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
I haven't these issues. My first feeling is that this could be related
to your ISPs IPv6. btw have you tried the latest image and do you have
this issue if you are connected to your (other) router and directly to
the ISP?

> * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
> kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
> consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
> cd-rom.
>    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial device,
> but cannot do anything with it.
I also have a 3G usb-dongle. I'll try this tomorrow. They are probably
not built as packages, because I think that they are in the sources.
Maybe file a feature request in the
http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/issues . Otherwise there
are similar packages in
http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/ but I
say don't use them :)

> * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP uses
> DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes. Meanwhile I installed
> dibbler-client, but can't run it: "can't load library 'libposlib.so.1'"
I would recommend that you verify that you don't have this file on the
filesystem (find / -name libposlib.so.1). Then you could search for
the file with (pkg search \* libposlib.so.1). And if it finds it
install the missing package and retry.

>    When I connected the router to my main ipv6 enabled router, it was able
> to pick the ipv6, but something still wrong with the dns - it only works for
> ipv4. Not sure exactly what is happening.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Max
>
>
>
> On 4 November 2011 03:22, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is as
>> good a place as any, at least for now)
>>
>> I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:
>>
>> the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory firmware
>> installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the factory
>> web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.
>>
>> The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of openwrt,
>> cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.
>>
>> JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do lots
>> of development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise squashfs
>> saves space.
>>
>> I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
>> while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have. (bugs,
>> features on the wiki please)
>>
>> but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
>> good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I try
>> to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7 itself
>> out in ~2 weeks...
>>
>> but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too
>> much (and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm going
>> to slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.
>>
>> What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm relatively
>> happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
>> trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which is
>> proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a sane
>> classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have more
>> of a grip on that at the moment.
>>
>> Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to your
>> laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! - fixing
>> your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
>> bloat everywhere you can.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
>>> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img
>>>
>>> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
>>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions
>>> to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to flash to
>>> OpenWRT first?
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I ended up doing is:
>>>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/)
>>>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows
>>>>> to
>>>>> continue)
>>>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>>>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>>>>> 5. profit!
>>>>
>>>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>>>>
>>>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>>>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bloat mailing list
>>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Täht
>> SKYPE: davetaht
>> US Tel: 1-239-829-5608
>> FR Tel: 0638645374
>> http://www.bufferbloat.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Max
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>
>

Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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Hi Petri,

I used
http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/cerowrt-wndr3700-1.0rc6/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.imgimage,
to be precise. It works with wndr3800 (apart from those flashing
problems I described).
I'm getting ge00 issues in all three cases: a) PPPoE on ge00 directly
connected to the ADSL modem; b) DHCP on ge00 connected to the main router
with ipv6 support; c) DHCP on ge00 connected to an old router without ipv6
support.
Couldn't find libposlib.so.1 neither in the file system nor in the
packages. But even if I could, I suspect that dibbler client is not a
proper solution. Openwrt docs suggest using wide-dhcpv6-client which
doesn't exist on the opkg list either.

All those issues are not a big deal, actually. The main thing is that I
don't know what to do with this router now. It's not ready to become my
main one, but I still want to conduct some experiments with it. Any ideas
of what could be useful?


Thanks,
Max

On 4 November 2011 21:37, Petri Rosenström <petri.rosenstrom@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
> > work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck
> (file
> > transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800,
> don't
> > know.
> You probably mean rc7-smoketest6, because rc6 doesn't include image
> for the wndr3800. I didn't get the wndr3700v2 images to work they
> required the small patch for it to work.
>
> > After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image.
> Did
> > you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?
>
> You should have could used it, if you tried from the webinterface. I
> at least was successful with this. btw. I run jffs2 image.
>
> I have only had a few issues, but I hope that are already fixed. I
> just have to tests it. My issues are related to bug 291. This patch
> might be in rc7-smoketest8.
>
> >
> > First impressions:
> > * Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
> > router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
> I haven't these issues. My first feeling is that this could be related
> to your ISPs IPv6. btw have you tried the latest image and do you have
> this issue if you are connected to your (other) router and directly to
> the ISP?
>
> > * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
> > kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
> > consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
> > cd-rom.
> >    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial device,
> > but cannot do anything with it.
> I also have a 3G usb-dongle. I'll try this tomorrow. They are probably
> not built as packages, because I think that they are in the sources.
> Maybe file a feature request in the
> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/issues . Otherwise there
> are similar packages in
> http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/ but I
> say don't use them :)
>
> > * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
> uses
> > DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes. Meanwhile I installed
> > dibbler-client, but can't run it: "can't load library 'libposlib.so.1'"
> I would recommend that you verify that you don't have this file on the
> filesystem (find / -name libposlib.so.1). Then you could search for
> the file with (pkg search \* libposlib.so.1). And if it finds it
> install the missing package and retry.
>
> >    When I connected the router to my main ipv6 enabled router, it was
> able
> > to pick the ipv6, but something still wrong with the dns - it only works
> for
> > ipv4. Not sure exactly what is happening.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Max
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4 November 2011 03:22, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is
> as
> >> good a place as any, at least for now)
> >>
> >> I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:
> >>
> >> the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory
> firmware
> >> installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the
> factory
> >> web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.
> >>
> >> The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of
> openwrt,
> >> cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.
> >>
> >> JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do lots
> >> of development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise
> squashfs
> >> saves space.
> >>
> >> I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
> >> while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have.
> (bugs,
> >> features on the wiki please)
> >>
> >> but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
> >> good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I
> try
> >> to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7
> itself
> >> out in ~2 weeks...
> >>
> >> but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too
> >> much (and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm
> going
> >> to slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.
> >>
> >> What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm
> relatively
> >> happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
> >> trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which is
> >> proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a
> sane
> >> classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have
> more
> >> of a grip on that at the moment.
> >>
> >> Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to your
> >> laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! -
> fixing
> >> your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
> >> bloat everywhere you can.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
> >>> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img
> >>> or
> >>>
> >>>
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img
> >>>
> >>> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
> >>>
> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions
> >>> to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to
> flash to
> >>> OpenWRT first?
> >>>
> >>> Shane
> >>>
> >>> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What I ended up doing is:
> >>>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/
> )
> >>>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but
> allows
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> continue)
> >>>>> 3. another 30-30-30
> >>>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
> >>>>> 5. profit!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
> >>>>
> >>>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
> >>>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Bloat mailing list
> >>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave Täht
> >> SKYPE: davetaht
> >> US Tel: 1-239-829-5608
> >> FR Tel: 0638645374
> >> http://www.bufferbloat.net
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Bloat mailing list
> >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Max
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bloat mailing list
> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> >
> >
>



-- 
Thanks,
Max

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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Petri Rosenström]

Hi Maxim,

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
> Hi Petri,
>
> I used
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/cerowrt-wndr3700-1.0rc6/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img

Does your router report that it has 128mb of RAM? i.e. from the
webinterface or from command line (i.e. free or /proc/memstat). I
think that I have tried the similar images with no success. In my case
it required the wndr3800 image, i.e.
http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3800-squashfs-factory.img

> image, to be precise. It works with wndr3800 (apart from those flashing
> problems I described).
> I'm getting ge00 issues in all three cases: a) PPPoE on ge00 directly
> connected to the ADSL modem; b) DHCP on ge00 connected to the main router
> with ipv6 support; c) DHCP on ge00 connected to an old router without ipv6
> support.

This is weird. I think you should report this issue and try to
describe it as well as you can. This sounds as a bug. But I would
recommend to test this first with a newer image. Cerowrt moves pretty
fast forward and this could have been fixed already. You should check
also that there are not similar issues already reported. I tried to
look, but I didn't find any that fits your description.

> Couldn't find libposlib.so.1 neither in the file system nor in the packages.
> But even if I could, I suspect that dibbler client is not a proper solution.
> Openwrt docs suggest using wide-dhcpv6-client which doesn't exist on the
> opkg list either.

Well well. I am no expert, but I would say that this might be useful
to add to the packages of Cerowrt (Feature request to the tracker). It
seems that Openwrt includes the package
(http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/wide-dhcpv6-client_20080615-7_ar71xx.ipk),
again I don't recommend using this package, even though I suspect that
it would work.

> All those issues are not a big deal, actually. The main thing is that I
> don't know what to do with this router now. It's not ready to become my main
> one, but I still want to conduct some experiments with it. Any ideas of what
> could be useful?

I have similar issues, I think that CeroWRT shows great promise, but I
break my router too often for it to be my main one. I have been
playing around with the thought of specifying a set of tests to
perform on the router. So we could see that we are going into the
right direction. I think that David is working on this but he is quite
busy :) and I think that there is a bug about it on the tracker, but I
didn't find it.

If you have a powerful machine (CPU power) and spare time, one
suggestion would be to build your own version of Cerowrt. Instructions
can be found at
http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Building_Cerowrt_on_your_own_machine
. If you are succesful with these instructions you could add
information to the bug about it http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/282
. This way you could include the modeswitch and dhcp packages. If you
are not familiar with building Cero/OpenWRT you could find more
information from http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/build . Most
important information is that by using command make menuconfig you can
add and/or remove packages from the image and the packages listing.
(If you want to use the optional packages (those with M in the name
not those with *) you need to change the link in /etc/opkg.conf.

--
best regards
Petri

>
> Thanks,
> Max
>
> On 4 November 2011 21:37, Petri Rosenström <petri.rosenstrom@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
>> > Hi Dave,
>> >
>> > Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
>> > work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck
>> > (file
>> > transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800,
>> > don't
>> > know.
>> You probably mean rc7-smoketest6, because rc6 doesn't include image
>> for the wndr3800. I didn't get the wndr3700v2 images to work they
>> required the small patch for it to work.
>>
>> > After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image.
>> > Did
>> > you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?
>>
>> You should have could used it, if you tried from the webinterface. I
>> at least was successful with this. btw. I run jffs2 image.
>>
>> I have only had a few issues, but I hope that are already fixed. I
>> just have to tests it. My issues are related to bug 291. This patch
>> might be in rc7-smoketest8.
>>
>> >
>> > First impressions:
>> > * Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
>> > router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
>> I haven't these issues. My first feeling is that this could be related
>> to your ISPs IPv6. btw have you tried the latest image and do you have
>> this issue if you are connected to your (other) router and directly to
>> the ISP?
>>
>> > * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
>> > kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
>> > consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a
>> > usb
>> > cd-rom.
>> >    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial
>> > device,
>> > but cannot do anything with it.
>> I also have a 3G usb-dongle. I'll try this tomorrow. They are probably
>> not built as packages, because I think that they are in the sources.
>> Maybe file a feature request in the
>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/issues . Otherwise there
>> are similar packages in
>> http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/ but I
>> say don't use them :)
>>
>> > * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
>> > uses
>> > DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes. Meanwhile I installed
>> > dibbler-client, but can't run it: "can't load library 'libposlib.so.1'"
>> I would recommend that you verify that you don't have this file on the
>> filesystem (find / -name libposlib.so.1). Then you could search for
>> the file with (pkg search \* libposlib.so.1). And if it finds it
>> install the missing package and retry.
>>
>> >    When I connected the router to my main ipv6 enabled router, it was
>> > able
>> > to pick the ipv6, but something still wrong with the dns - it only works
>> > for
>> > ipv4. Not sure exactly what is happening.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Max
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4 November 2011 03:22, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is
>> >> as
>> >> good a place as any, at least for now)
>> >>
>> >> I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:
>> >>
>> >> the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory
>> >> firmware
>> >> installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the
>> >> factory
>> >> web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.
>> >>
>> >> The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of
>> >> openwrt,
>> >> cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.
>> >>
>> >> JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do
>> >> lots
>> >> of development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise
>> >> squashfs
>> >> saves space.
>> >>
>> >> I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
>> >> while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have.
>> >> (bugs,
>> >> features on the wiki please)
>> >>
>> >> but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
>> >> good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I
>> >> try
>> >> to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7
>> >> itself
>> >> out in ~2 weeks...
>> >>
>> >> but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too
>> >> much (and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm
>> >> going
>> >> to slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.
>> >>
>> >> What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm
>> >> relatively
>> >> happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
>> >> trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which
>> >> is
>> >> proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a
>> >> sane
>> >> classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have
>> >> more
>> >> of a grip on that at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to
>> >> your
>> >> laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! -
>> >> fixing
>> >> your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
>> >> bloat everywhere you can.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
>> >>> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img
>> >>> or
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img
>> >>>
>> >>> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions
>> >>> to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to
>> >>> flash to
>> >>> OpenWRT first?
>> >>>
>> >>> Shane
>> >>>
>> >>> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> What I ended up doing is:
>> >>>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/)
>> >>>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but
>> >>>>> allows
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> continue)
>> >>>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>> >>>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>> >>>>> 5. profit!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>> >>>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>> >>>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Dave Taht]

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rc7-smoketest9 is out, no major changes, just openwrt head + the packages
asked for below.

minimally tested on a 3800. not tested on a 3700v2.

At least on the jffs2 version, the wifi detection routine failed and I had
to run wifi detect > /etc/config/wireless

and reboot.

ge00 comes up for me. An ongoing problem is the lack of random numbers for
wpa.

If it otherwise breaks, I will be offline this weekend, please go back to
rc7-smoketest8...

it appears dibbler-poslib is built as a separate package, with an incorrect
dependency...

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
> work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck (file
> transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800, don't
> know.
>

you probably needed the 3800 specific image in smoketest8. OR


> After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image.
> Did you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?
>
> yes.


> First impressions:
> * Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
> router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
>

As noted earlier, I'm puzzled.


> * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
> kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
> consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
> cd-rom.
>

we're very interested in bloat on 3g. What dongle do you use?


>    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial device,
> but cannot do anything with it.
>

Your wish is my command. see rc7-smoketest9 for these additional optional
packages.

I note it's best to NOT preserve settings over a reflash. SOMETIMES you can
switch opkg repos to the latest, particularly when the kernel doesn't
change - but not on smoketests....

* DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
> uses DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes.



>
>
You have an ISP THAT DOES PD? Where? Who? Wow.

> Meanwhile I installed dibbler-client, but can't run it: "can't load
library 'libposlib.so.1'"

Dibbler is old, and what's in git is improving but unstable. I really don't
know what to use. I have a request from comcast to use something, anything,
but...

   When I connected the router to my main ipv6 enabled router, it was able
> to pick the ipv6, but something still wrong with the dns - it only works
> for ipv4. Not sure exactly what is happening.
>

hmm. more detail (in a bug report) please.


>
>
> Thanks,
> Max
>
>
>
>
> On 4 November 2011 03:22, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is
>> as good a place as any, at least for now)
>>
>> I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:
>>
>> the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory
>> firmware installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the
>> factory web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.
>>
>> The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of openwrt,
>> cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.
>>
>> JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do lots
>> of development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise squashfs
>> saves space.
>>
>> I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
>> while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have.
>> (bugs, features on the wiki please)
>>
>> but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
>> good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I try
>> to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7 itself
>> out in ~2 weeks...
>>
>> but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too
>> much (and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm going
>> to slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.
>>
>> What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm relatively
>> happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
>> trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which is
>> proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a
>> sane classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have
>> more of a grip on that at the moment.
>>
>> Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to your
>> laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! - fixing
>> your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
>> bloat everywhere you can.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca>wrote:
>>
>>> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
>>> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
>>>
>>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/**~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-**
>>> smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-**generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-**factory.img<http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/%7Ecero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img>
>>> or
>>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/**~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-**
>>> smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-**generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-**factory.img<http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/%7Ecero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img>
>>>
>>> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
>>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/**projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_**
>>> flashing_instructions<http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions>to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to flash
>>> to OpenWRT first?
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>>> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  What I ended up doing is:
>>>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>>>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/**article/18623/How-to-Hard-**
>>>>> Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/<http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/>
>>>>> )
>>>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but
>>>>> allows to
>>>>> continue)
>>>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>>>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>>>>> 5. profit!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>>>>
>>>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>>>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
>


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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Shane Turner]

I successfully flashed my wndr3700v2 with rc7-smoketest9. Used a Windows 7 laptop with the optional tftp client. I used the jffs2-factory.img file renamed to simply jffs2.img. 

The router only took about 30 seconds until it was in a state to accept the image, based on the lights and 2 seconds (literally) to tftp the flash over. 

I forgot to time how long until it rebooted.

I'll better document it tomorrow. 

I haven't hooked up the router to anything other than the laptop used to flash it. No sanity checks done. I haven't considered whether to replace my wrt160n or tie it in some other way. I'm open to suggestions. 

If I want to best reproduce my procedure, are there any issues I should be aware of as far as reapplying the factory firmware, vs flashing over the installed cerowrt firmware?

Shane

Sent from my iPod

On 2011-11-03, at 8:54 AM, Shane Turner <turner@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:

> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
> 
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img
> or
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img
> 
> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to flash to OpenWRT first?
> 
> Shane
> 
> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>> 
>>> What I ended up doing is:
>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/)
>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but allows to
>>> continue)
>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>>> 5. profit!
>> 
>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>> 
>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> 

Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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Hi Petri,

Does your router report that it has 128mb of RAM? i.e. from the
> webinterface or from command line (i.e. free or /proc/memstat). I
> think that I have tried the similar images with no success. In my case
> it required the wndr3800 image, i.e.
>
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3800-squashfs-factory.img
>
>
Yes, it reports 128Mb of RAM, and RC6 image works fine.


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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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Hi Dave,


On 5 November 2011 05:32, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> rc7-smoketest9 is out, no major changes, just openwrt head + the packages
> asked for below.
>
> minimally tested on a 3800. not tested on a 3700v2.
>
> At least on the jffs2 version, the wifi detection routine failed and I had
> to run wifi detect > /etc/config/wireless
>
> and reboot.
>
> ge00 comes up for me. An ongoing problem is the lack of random numbers for
> wpa.
>
> If it otherwise breaks, I will be offline this weekend, please go back to
> rc7-smoketest8...
>
> it appears dibbler-poslib is built as a separate package, with an
> incorrect dependency...
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
>> work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck (file
>> transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800, don't
>> know.
>>
>
> you probably needed the 3800 specific image in smoketest8. OR
>
>
>> After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image.
>> Did you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?
>>
>> yes.
>
>
>> First impressions:
>> * Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
>> router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
>>
>
> As noted earlier, I'm puzzled.
>

Ge00 didn't start up after commenting out ethtool, so I suspect it was
slightly different issue. I've just updated to rc7-smoketest9, however, and
the problem is not happening anymore, so I consider it was somehow solved.



>
>
>> * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
>> kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
>> consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
>> cd-rom.
>>
>
> we're very interested in bloat on 3g. What dongle do you use?
>
>
>>    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial device,
>> but cannot do anything with it.
>>
>
> Your wish is my command. see rc7-smoketest9 for these additional optional
> packages.
>
>
Thanks for including all these packages, my 3g dongle now works. It is ZTE
MF636 (Telecom New Zealand). Speedtest shows 5.5mb/1.35mb/104ms, which is a
great result.
Will do some more testing later.



> I note it's best to NOT preserve settings over a reflash. SOMETIMES you
> can switch opkg repos to the latest, particularly when the kernel doesn't
> change - but not on smoketests....
>
> * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
>> uses DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes.
>
>
>
>>
>>
> You have an ISP THAT DOES PD? Where? Who? Wow.
>
>
Snap Internet, New Zealand.
I installed wide-dhcpv6-client, but not sure how to test it now. PPPoE
somehow disappeared from interface options, I now have DHCP client / Static
address or Unmanaged protocol choice.


-- 
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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Dave Taht]

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rc7-smoketest10 is out in the usual place.

Fix for the wifi detect routine, re:

https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/10350

Also jow had been busy abstracting out network protocol support from the
web interface, I added ipv6 as std, 3g as optional. (package is
luci-proto-whatever)

TOTALLY untested.

slightly more below.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:

>
>
> Ge00 didn't start up after commenting out ethtool, so I suspect it was
> slightly different issue. I've just updated to rc7-smoketest9, however, and
> the problem is not happening anymore, so I consider it was somehow solved.
>
>
Good. Were you plugging it into a switch before?


>
>
>>
>>
>>> * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
>>> kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
>>> consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
>>> cd-rom.
>>>
>>
>> we're very interested in bloat on 3g. What dongle do you use?
>>
>>
>>>    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial
>>> device, but cannot do anything with it.
>>>
>>
>> Your wish is my command. see rc7-smoketest9 for these additional optional
>> packages.
>>
>>
> Thanks for including all these packages, my 3g dongle now works. It is ZTE
> MF636 (Telecom New Zealand). Speedtest shows 5.5mb/1.35mb/104ms, which is a
> great result.
> Will do some more testing later.
>
>
I'm curious as to what the txqueuelen defaults to on that.
104ms ping times? Ugh.



>
>> I note it's best to NOT preserve settings over a reflash. SOMETIMES you
>> can switch opkg repos to the latest, particularly when the kernel doesn't
>> change - but not on smoketests....
>>
>> * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
>>> uses DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>> You have an ISP THAT DOES PD? Where? Who? Wow.
>>
>>
> Snap Internet, New Zealand.
>

They take immigrants?


> I installed wide-dhcpv6-client, but not sure how to test it now. PPPoE
> somehow disappeared from interface options, I now have DHCP client / Static
> address or Unmanaged protocol choice.
>
>
As per above that ppp got abstracted out of the web interface, and is now
back in as an optional module. I might make it be in by default...

see the various luci-proto packages.




>
> --
> Thanks,
> Max
>
>


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Re: [Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

[Maxim Kharlamov]

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Hi Dave,

On 6 November 2011 09:33, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> rc7-smoketest10 is out in the usual place.
>
> Fix for the wifi detect routine, re:
>
> https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/10350
>
> Also jow had been busy abstracting out network protocol support from the
> web interface, I added ipv6 as std, 3g as optional. (package is
> luci-proto-whatever)
>
> TOTALLY untested.
>
> slightly more below.
>
>
Updated to smoketest10.
Those features are slightly tested now. After installing the necessary
packages, 3g and pppoe work, dhcp6c also seems to be OK, but requires some
messing with the /etc/config/dhcp6c.conf file.



> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs@podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ge00 didn't start up after commenting out ethtool, so I suspect it was
>> slightly different issue. I've just updated to rc7-smoketest9, however, and
>> the problem is not happening anymore, so I consider it was somehow solved.
>>
>>
> Good. Were you plugging it into a switch before?
>

Yes, it is always plugged to a switch.


>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
>>>> kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
>>>> consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a usb
>>>> cd-rom.
>>>>
>>>
>>> we're very interested in bloat on 3g. What dongle do you use?
>>>
>>>
>>>>    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial
>>>> device, but cannot do anything with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your wish is my command. see rc7-smoketest9 for these additional
>>> optional packages.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for including all these packages, my 3g dongle now works. It is
>> ZTE MF636 (Telecom New Zealand). Speedtest shows 5.5mb/1.35mb/104ms, which
>> is a great result.
>> Will do some more testing later.
>>
>>
> I'm curious as to what the txqueuelen defaults to on that.
> 104ms ping times? Ugh.
>
>
ifconfig shows txqueuelen:40



>
>
>>
>>> I note it's best to NOT preserve settings over a reflash. SOMETIMES you
>>> can switch opkg repos to the latest, particularly when the kernel doesn't
>>> change - but not on smoketests....
>>>
>>> * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
>>>> uses DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You have an ISP THAT DOES PD? Where? Who? Wow.
>>>
>>>
>> Snap Internet, New Zealand.
>>
>
> They take immigrants?
>

We are welcome :)


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