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From: Jason Iannone <jason.iannone@gmail.com>
To: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Terminology for Laypeople
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 09:23:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGL1wDR-GDZr_R3Yns1o0zZH3hBiys3Fr4X5zE-n6hPr3Zs8VQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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It's not a short discussion but I start with a comparison of circuit and
packet switching, usually with an accompanying drawing. There's a physicist
joke in here about assuming a frictionless environment but for the intent
of this explanation, a circuit switched path is bufferless because circuit
switched networks are point to point and bits are transmitted at the same
rate that they are received. Packet switching introduces a mechanism for
nodes supporting multiple ingress, single egress transmission. In order to
support transient bursts, network nodes hold onto bits for a time while the
egress interface processes the node's ingress traffic. That hold time
equates to additional latency. Every node in a path may subject a flow's
traffic to buffering, increasing latency in transit based on its individual
load.

Jason

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 8:02 PM Livingood, Jason via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Like many of you I have been immersed in buffer bloat discussions for many
> years, almost entirely within the technical community. Now that I am
> starting to explain latency & latency under load to internal non-technical
> folks, I have noticed some people don’t really understand “traditional”
> latency vs. latency under load (LUL).
>
>
>
> As a result, I am planning to experiment in some upcoming briefings and
> call traditional latency “idle latency” – a measure of latency conducted on
> an otherwise idle connection. And then try calling LUL either “active
> latency” or perhaps “working latency” (suggested by an external colleague –
> can’t take credit for that one) – to try to communicate it is latency when
> the connection is experiencing normal usage.
>
>
>
> Have any of you here faced similar challenges explaining this to
> non-technical audiences? Have you had any success with alternative terms?
> What do you think of these?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any input,
>
> Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-05  0:02 Livingood, Jason
2021-05-05  0:14 ` James R Cutler
2021-05-05  7:41   ` Erik Auerswald
2021-05-06 14:38     ` Dave Taht
2021-05-05  1:41 ` Matt Mathis
2021-05-05 15:05 ` Neil Davies
2021-05-06 13:23 ` Jason Iannone [this message]
2021-05-06 13:40   ` David Lang
2021-05-06 18:00     ` Dave Taht
2021-05-10 20:10 ` Jonathan Foulkes
2021-05-11 21:26   ` Greg White
2021-05-12 15:50 Ingemar Johansson S
2021-05-12 21:51 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2021-05-16 18:48   ` john
2021-05-16 19:20     ` Jonathan Morton
2021-05-16 20:44       ` Michael Richardson
2021-05-16 21:32         ` Aaron Wood
2021-05-16 21:33         ` Jonathan Morton
2021-05-16 23:02           ` Jonathan Morton
2021-05-17  5:18     ` Simon Barber
2021-05-17  5:24       ` Jonathan Morton

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