It's not a short discussion but I start with a comparison of circuit and packet switching, usually with an accompanying drawing. There's a physicist joke in here about assuming a frictionless environment but for the intent of this explanation, a circuit switched path is bufferless because circuit switched networks are point to point and bits are transmitted at the same rate that they are received. Packet switching introduces a mechanism for nodes supporting multiple ingress, single egress transmission. In order to support transient bursts, network nodes hold onto bits for a time while the egress interface processes the node's ingress traffic. That hold time equates to additional latency. Every node in a path may subject a flow's traffic to buffering, increasing latency in transit based on its individual load. Jason On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 8:02 PM Livingood, Jason via Bloat < bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Like many of you I have been immersed in buffer bloat discussions for many > years, almost entirely within the technical community. Now that I am > starting to explain latency & latency under load to internal non-technical > folks, I have noticed some people don’t really understand “traditional” > latency vs. latency under load (LUL). > > > > As a result, I am planning to experiment in some upcoming briefings and > call traditional latency “idle latency” – a measure of latency conducted on > an otherwise idle connection. And then try calling LUL either “active > latency” or perhaps “working latency” (suggested by an external colleague – > can’t take credit for that one) – to try to communicate it is latency when > the connection is experiencing normal usage. > > > > Have any of you here faced similar challenges explaining this to > non-technical audiences? Have you had any success with alternative terms? > What do you think of these? > > > > Thanks for any input, > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >