From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x243.google.com (mail-qt0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EC503CB4B for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x243.google.com with SMTP id u6so366971qtg.13 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:09:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=clxzQEk64q+GQHwYihSM3QbmsM8Rt3hBrDCA3zwCq8Q=; b=jdK2LYYOHTE/6aELYLR+LuxaJVpUu56X1H3eMcDcclR7ppRCzF4b23kilE/pI4uQKi I+3Tj7iDIimtYCMPvEwp8eP25/ikZ/DzkeUjJTiU6H1+uFTtSNBbO7ofntUsdx+qxy8A 73F06uZGW85a4IIRXik/Y8DNkJk/3YCkbAJ5+6+8Xd4e/6JjY9oxAaGAH5AkWmY2LJZp ekV9+EgcWmPZkhmrlAY5L7q/vCEYBgzYHEgzgPcOwMFni9ian8da4CeVSKZQTWAlZZ5u BV3a05FWt0h8YAZPYIoa9LLfT1GlgBNJVanr00iPw/ApowF6Y5JmsShTCKagMymgQ8Sj j4vQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=clxzQEk64q+GQHwYihSM3QbmsM8Rt3hBrDCA3zwCq8Q=; b=VnoOxjJib9eq0gvJ7rA/UCeGfCQjmQ66d7xTmpjkKy0VezP+nQWb/T+DVsWvE3kXBl /05YivTIjGolWIxjbjKiPsz0fX1zAA07a4x+ZXDG2ApySvMwLmuLjxai/M7H2E8BjPwI W9NZs2a0GgtY8K/gRJciJXfxkECTlYasgWIKQMiFaennExQQSlHgKGRptDo/3Xk5nN2u NQxeBfyHfwZb2X8khSaFmWn4kcBNfYrGrtt+BXRHR6/c2kVtsDVyd4p3mEOAAbmIyxTL SnvzbfWTKnAb1UJP3CHm0nzIM3y0C+0Ry2mCznwtf+oQ81S/bGp8wIYIMSGZ4vw8DGGo zBSw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCMJuC9uR0hYYBFmNnYpK65EbXd3y0sOjyyMmeTwGeZgqYlkor6 OeBjYU/Ggh2kuEJlSz5bs71UywgNcL+b5cIzDf3PDQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227cyaEWcBP82Uu+SqTBVvLBP9glkHtshFdETqWGLsLJP6LSfeAhGulwileOBE0A5V1tZKhlrgv0D9oe1gzG3qg= X-Received: by 10.200.1.16 with SMTP id e16mr20926939qtg.51.1518455340786; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:09:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.12.168.232 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:09:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jim Gettys Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:09:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bAws2P0RUa0q3YSxSHKUNvbPZJ8 Message-ID: To: Jan Ceuleers Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f31b431e9cc056506efea" Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:09:01 -0000 --f403045f31b431e9cc056506efea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Jan Ceuleers wrote: > On 12/02/18 02:11, Jim Gettys wrote: > > My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (I= t > > was supposed to go up 7pm ET). > > > > https://gettys.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/ > > > > We will push this on social media first thing in the morning. Those of > > you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rolling > > in the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up). > > > > Thank you all for all of your help. I have tried to credit everyone > > appropriately as best I can. > > Jim, an important audience for this blog is in China - that's where a > lot of the R&D of home routers happens. I know that China is currently > rushing to get things finished before Chinese New Year. I submit that > you need to think about a relaunch when China is back. > =E2=80=8BGood point. And they play musical chairs over New Years too. - Jim =E2=80=8B > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --f403045f31b431e9cc056506efea Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Fe= b 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On 12/02/1= 8 02:11, Jim Gettys wrote:
> My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up y= et (It
> was supposed to go up 7pm ET).
>
> https://gettys.wordpress= .com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/
>
> We will push this on social media first thing in the morning.=C2=A0 Th= ose of
> you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rol= ling
> in the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up).
>
> Thank you all for all of your help.=C2=A0 I have tried to credit every= one
> appropriately as best I can.

Jim, an important audience for this blog is in China - that's wh= ere a
lot of the R&D of home routers happens. I know that China is currently<= br> rushing to get things finished before Chinese New Year. I submit that
you need to think about a relaunch when China is back.

=E2=80=8B= Good point.
And they play= musical chairs over New Years too.
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