From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-f179.google.com (mail-qt1-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F0093B29E for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-f179.google.com with SMTP id t9so2998464qto.9 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 11:13:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=x2vVfeSkZWF9trnJ+hJmqDN5ADKiyEZoSpEDqR6Vwic=; b=ON1EtuEOnWUd85XcwVvWzmbojOjvu6ZeOOSl3aA0/ci1rsCvolykqONTL3FIXUZDgf vJZHqpFfrgspTEEiG34iFhEQBGebzPNuSNLVpPjFIs3x/+PHtSScGPsr7lvSxBpphUZK vznvZe6+HDabrudlicbjQH8egg/1P5WYaJ212lgYRdQdVIPKbDiQJbP5StQdrFpfh95K Rs4fpRNzvap5JNeKgCBsbrArrLv0O3GPohLTxcAM3JWELdJwNx8crezkFpahLT1Bl2QX 9jlTUKbGoSPFcuB5F/RF5iUDGGsuYsL5qOUa8voQiMDel7ylJAeisBfbzbEjyJP+lNCT 3OWw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2pkrHquRM5rt234uynrQIU8w/ejY2jIGlzZyjxQLsFnOZ1UpCU LtJnKSPLoMk2ChGBqORBcUclC7DN9+6PN1y/MPY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vuT3NLHQBV44SLxwZRFGtpwoJlh2vUFBZgOzpC1u5vkaezbNRhhAxyJZsyIxJUDOk3N9rGuvqI2oKPtYOCJ7u0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:32db:: with SMTP id a27mr4436052qtb.165.1585160002862; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jim Gettys Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:13:06 -0400 Message-ID: To: Aaron Wood Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e203da05a1b1d231" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Still seeing bloat with a DOCSIS 3.1 modem X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 18:13:23 -0000 --000000000000e203da05a1b1d231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Birdies have told me that it is possible for DOCSIS 3.1 modems to be running in 3.0 mode. Bitch at your ISP. - Jim On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:01 AM Aaron Wood wrote: > I recently upgraded service from 150up, 10dn Mbps to xfinity's gigabit > (with 35Mbps up) tier, and picked up a DOCSIS 3.1 modem to go with it. > > Flent test results are here: > > https://burntchrome.blogspot.com/2020/03/bufferbloat-with-comcast-gigabit-with.html > > tl/dr; 1000ms of upstream bufferbloat > > But it's DOCSIS 3.1, so why isn't PIE working? Theory: It's in DOCSIS > 3.0 upstream mode based on the status LEDs. Hopefully it will go away if I > can convince it to run in DOCSIS 3.1 mode. > > At the moment, however, my WRT1900AC isn't up to the task of dealing with > these sorts of downstream rates. > > So I'm looking at the apu2, which from this post: > > https://forum.openwrt.org/t/comparative-throughput-testing-including-nat-sqm-wireguard-and-openvpn/44724 > > Will certainly get most of the way there. > > Although > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --000000000000e203da05a1b1d231 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bir= dies have told me that it is possible for DOCSIS 3.1 modems to be running i= n 3.0 mode.
Bitch at your= ISP.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:01 AM Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently upgraded service from 150up= , 10dn Mbps to xfinity's gigabit (with 35Mbps up) tier, and picked up a= DOCSIS 3.1 modem to go with it.

Flent test results are = here:
But it's DOCSIS 3.1, so why isn't PIE working?=C2= =A0 Theory: =C2=A0It's in DOCSIS 3.0 upstream mode based on the status = LEDs.=C2=A0 Hopefully it will go away if I can convince it to run in DOCSIS= 3.1 mode.

At the moment, however, my WRT1900AC is= n't up to the task of dealing with these sorts of downstream rates.

So I'm looking=C2=A0at the apu2, which from this = post:

Will certai= nly get most of the way there.

Although
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