From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22f.google.com (mail-qt0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC1E33CB48 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id w1so3805767qti.4 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:27:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=YyfzkaQelBX09vsIYCn/Rc2LetVJ3gsUr3d6FYwYGfs=; b=gghJI111aP4AzQNZaBztt0HJXrrtfKyOSPITdBPT+604843cyO1jGfVbNk7WA/ikRs n2XfLsdwiusrJLx1oi0cQFHzb8HexxCGafvnmaxXwO8f7Ur1NKouFtzySjRSf1CZvRay dqzgua41YDF7OHQST+DEO561h4dexI0yZ4moW0zpI5cYVOpz4OU880cFsq/BPxnG+KBr zy2V8UGdlzvIQM3FhvhdeJ4tpqvvUh/mN0hUwgP9R2d0y9MJcoZqtmpAv1HGSQF/JhEy rRU2T/Mr8W63r26Q5GNIAHb2QRsa7H8wTJ9QCMkIhzswFPWF6urbi6wMHPe8B1J+++SV isrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YyfzkaQelBX09vsIYCn/Rc2LetVJ3gsUr3d6FYwYGfs=; b=OlPKHRaf9xmxYYsXAJm85ovzLAYOixnXDhAKyZR5GDdnG5mrEvMDbpnkInR93sOZG/ UuAQoVUvr2nJW1nStWMu4KSP9u1gLlZ3Y0X3r4l/i+CDBWzSr9+soXVl0H6kYObqPN63 IWDkenJDeSXOiWPrfawvm9U00rEhnMdHKUZA5Z1oFlGgoIp5P5mv+nhGNbLodkacvXg6 110j35ZZpIfesqusKvcGIAvkE8+tJA6ZGtgo3N7kRXJHSsthfAua2Cicpm3jBIQ/YXn0 TD6qx9APO21ecpLzxY2OrYgL2HMa3Si8YmkawLbiyRMLs7GoyT7vN8I3B6Tc7F9mxApv MpIw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDTMIhGB09B+wydl5zVmzXOgNkizUQFDBSzTtKuYjGDncBGq5Xc sPvK0GslkPU73deWzU849uFpzivsdnFYAdzkDlU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225MTpVX0rOdVSd0sk3pQRJZ7M5i3b+8Pru6hiOPT8WZWaneU+n9cEJwJPmdHaJmpgoWvBPlkRbvoIs1Qc2//Vs= X-Received: by 10.200.16.11 with SMTP id z11mr18149441qti.292.1518445633189; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:27:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.12.168.232 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:27:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1518444596433.8187@telenor.com> References: <1518444596433.8187@telenor.com> From: Jim Gettys Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:27:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DpA-8Yv3nsFMVgLGFBcwehR7s0w Message-ID: To: erik.taraldsen@telenor.com Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e0826717c93be0a056504acf1" Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:27:13 -0000 --089e0826717c93be0a056504acf1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The IETF blog copy is up. I gather the IETF home page is next, sometime later today or tomorrow. - Jim On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:09 AM, wrote: > Good post! I'm spreading this internally in Telenor (ISP and mobile > operation). Trying to educate the Mobile side before we start building 5= G. > > > -Erik > > > > ________________________________ > Fra: Bloat p=C3=A5 vegne av Jim Get= tys < > jg@freedesktop.org> > Sendt: 12. februar 2018 02:11 > Til: bloat > Emne: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. > > My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (It > was supposed to go up 7pm ET). > > https://gettys.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/ > > We will push this on social media first thing in the morning. Those of > you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rolling in > the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up). > > Thank you all for all of your help. I have tried to credit everyone > appropriately as best I can. > > All the best, > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --089e0826717c93be0a056504acf1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The= IETF blog copy is up.

I = gather the IETF home page is next, sometime later today or tomorrow.
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On Mon, Feb 12,= 2018 at 9:09 AM, <erik.taraldsen@telenor.com> wro= te:
Good post!=C2=A0 I'm spreading th= is internally in Telenor (ISP and mobile operation).=C2=A0 Trying to educat= e the Mobile side before we start building 5G.


-Erik



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Fra: Bloat <bloat= -bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> p=C3=A5 vegne av Jim Gettys <= ;jg@freedesktop.org>
Sendt: 12. februar 2018 02:11
Til: bloat
Emne: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant.

My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (I= t was supposed to go up 7pm ET).

https://gettys.wordpress.com/= 2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/

We will push this on social media first thing in the morning.=C2=A0 Those o= f you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rollin= g in the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up).

Thank you all for all of your help.=C2=A0 I have tried to credit everyone a= ppropriately as best I can.

All the best,

Jim

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