From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x235.google.com (mail-qk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21FAA3CB3B for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id e20so18590241qkm.7 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:36:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=+ZCoFWRXKMpql8VWLahHYF3dtAhhSSjL28NTuNHkxBw=; b=f0XwS682k/alVBRXpToNCVTc6GzJ8U9/HaodFj6JLKaCONLkg3AtOq1oN6hptVw14P jNKFQklWmGGrteXuR8Vd4vtaa82Hc2VLEEbxN8jhwjzrCCvVs9BMACKv3V8GF/5BM+uW zfbIDl+unmfhsRLg+5v8EgAgRBbmwtF4cf2+gGGppgKbqVaz0MT9En0UwNT23o4ppQfP jqlhuhFT9wf0d+smjDWeGxCNbQ0tfuKhQk79wtbvWaO8h6HBqxVydzs0x6bChAxQAnUo CZip7XtSV4deiEwjYQoOsLau5nh1WtgeOPnMOCoEQm7rMDWCDvnyUh/wkCI6lPGsRhil f4jQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+ZCoFWRXKMpql8VWLahHYF3dtAhhSSjL28NTuNHkxBw=; b=sorRPkgSFMiCpc/Az1Jq/po743TVXyd9CLP69jPaY5frkVUL/NCTKgTxjxGuJdSONB WUpksv1+uqZTOOGVUmls7t8ajmpJdn0fPqkrdfgM/q16XMvejMKXk1YTgTdfpPAZ2x0u Q6wdkxP7n4uPSi1CvK4cBjRgEmfeI4qBGGnuoJayzYA2J45hnhEBVpQ+IFwXb+XkRu4X LpEnXwfpxL15Mnpa//4jMIDoeIOZpVFNEwqjABUAGSA9h5cdq/ztKCUuAHVTGsjTg9xV 6m0Dw+IMp4fiIzZH4k8wpfuXEgurdyC7VZ46LpR2Jy+LsoW3BdL5qyUEmzsuNxC3Mbi1 jgwg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPC9E7fE72AaEAU+qeQE4E8BSY5Y8sDsf3+udSEFCWcAjwC4jXqg Nh6odqqDH1hdm5P5cv8CcmYeiUTGnzrYxltiy0A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224cm0W6zqriqjZ7zP593azoybYECpv7VZ7ntyvkyougrL8K/GBSQTtM/t6urHByTIhOHEBHb2QWgjeDByBzk3s= X-Received: by 10.55.161.17 with SMTP id k17mr18416031qke.260.1518446160578; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:36:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.12.168.232 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:36:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1518444596433.8187@telenor.com> From: Jim Gettys Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:36:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vzUygOM7rp3W2vIsLunkUFZ3rKs Message-ID: To: erik.taraldsen@telenor.com Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c05cd3a03106b056504cced" Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:36:01 -0000 --94eb2c05cd3a03106b056504cced Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone on the list a budding poet, interested in taking my text and composing a poem something like the original by Saxe? That would be quite a hoot, if it can be done. Your non-poetic friend, Jim On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: > The IETF blog copy is up. > > I gather the IETF home page is next, sometime later today or tomorrow. > - Jim > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:09 AM, wrote: > >> Good post! I'm spreading this internally in Telenor (ISP and mobile >> operation). Trying to educate the Mobile side before we start building = 5G. >> >> >> -Erik >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Fra: Bloat p=C3=A5 vegne av Jim Ge= ttys < >> jg@freedesktop.org> >> Sendt: 12. februar 2018 02:11 >> Til: bloat >> Emne: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. >> >> My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (It >> was supposed to go up 7pm ET). >> >> https://gettys.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/ >> >> We will push this on social media first thing in the morning. Those of >> you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rolling i= n >> the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up). >> >> Thank you all for all of your help. I have tried to credit everyone >> appropriately as best I can. >> >> All the best, >> >> Jim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> > > --94eb2c05cd3a03106b056504cced Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any= one on the list a budding poet, interested in taking my text and composing = a poem
somethin= g like the original by Saxe?=C2=A0 That would be quite a hoot, if it can be= done.
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Your non-poetic friend,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim


On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Jim Gettys &= lt;jg@freedesktop.o= rg> wrote:
The IETF blog copy = is up.

I gather the IETF = home page is next, sometime later today or tomorrow.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Jim


O= n Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:09 AM, <erik.taraldsen@telenor.com&= gt; wrote:
Good post!=C2=A0 I'= m spreading this internally in Telenor (ISP and mobile operation).=C2=A0 Tr= ying to educate the Mobile side before we start building 5G.


-Erik



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Fra: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> p=C3=A5 vegne= av Jim Gettys <= jg@freedesktop.org>
Sendt: 12. februar 2018 02:11
Til: bloat
Emne: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant.

My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (I= t was supposed to go up 7pm ET).

https://gettys.wordpress.com/= 2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/

We will push this on social media first thing in the morning.=C2=A0 Those o= f you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rollin= g in the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up).

Thank you all for all of your help.=C2=A0 I have tried to credit everyone a= ppropriately as best I can.

All the best,

Jim

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