From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22a.google.com (mail-qt0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E9BA3CB44 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id d14so875189qtg.1 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:14:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=36AiYjiGReJAaO76/O2AzOPBR3FRZ6PnH8lMTp17apk=; b=gvcxwl33pYyYNUwj7hut9BtvGqkvX4D6H4q3BMkNnIm3WCIaatOpuiAnMzOIZmi+nw xmwTJMSkxwTbOE426KxIw1/OpDnTF5zzMO6qHF2qkTIRmQTZod7GYbwbJnIvwhrkqUFz WzVir70U6a1ZsdOToD8PPTGPHMtvDKNpIKors8K18cUBSviO9f9s74Liw6DD/oqqlkLZ 6TXYjvZRzniupFaM2zbRPjdKD6vEqgh3l3wkc9IRFwbVzvaLmZ2fwlZqN8kUD+rQdDy2 iZbSGe4ldG+NpJ9LsR7P52VEdclEEUKrDOLoKU6wiebZvb3T1jFmDafLRxRufSQ7AEDq yi7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=36AiYjiGReJAaO76/O2AzOPBR3FRZ6PnH8lMTp17apk=; b=jKZYECPdu6/K3kAJ15RlhROtqiUVe19wBNWVHOhH80r3BKHSotmKT5ob61lZPEHO+y LI7iDcCXwpV/wxqmpOtz6ORUufJGhuWVFznZ9Wd93GBmug9ayypMnla9/I1G0S/JlKfG PHUoxczAyx82D1sHhedRHNhOb+HHrSkofqrTcnJs41NzgDjZJlX8qeeFdTYQVUFVkBRY WKQPwY9Tg1P16TQ87EPrCXBRvTZNlfsrXtGIZ/HXcC2vAHYbOab/XH/NJpORQikqTyd2 gsLkL3j9gXr3M2Qn7Ul88hiPlqaRepLHcklur717H9AzJ+vcq/gBiS9jUc7aF6McKmeS FNvg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDJkX5ksInc7bhHJmdf16P6Yda7G19dP9z4gvlw3DVTrU2HNHT0 xryiujb6bRJL/YfOo9Gr0q/TGQHAUkS6mpAMgy0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224pqTlG80zmVtI+iEMeLUPQWjqvy1w5z7zwBwCiMl6CDZQOdDl6OqkJiPppcvhnGZJMyVT/vw0NcxGn8phbd7M= X-Received: by 10.200.43.193 with SMTP id n1mr19948206qtn.20.1518462874496; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:14:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.12.168.232 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.12.168.232 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:14:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1518444596433.8187@telenor.com> From: Jim Gettys Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:14:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: o9183yZT8TL9LxwtTtqB9MpWx-s Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton Cc: erik.taraldsen@telenor.com, bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1140642a3d3599056508b02e" Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:14:35 -0000 --001a1140642a3d3599056508b02e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Love it! Jim On Feb 12, 2018 1:39 PM, "Jonathan Morton" wrote: > > On 12 Feb, 2018, at 4:36 pm, Jim Gettys wrote: > > > > Anyone on the list a budding poet, interested in taking my text and > composing a poem > > something like the original by Saxe? That would be quite a hoot, if it > can be done. > > I can make a start: > > It was few men of industry, > To learning much inclined, > Who sought to fix the Internet, > (With market share in mind), > That evil of congestion, > Might soon be left behind. > > Definitely, the pipe-men say, > A wider link we laud, > For congestion occurs only > When bandwidth exceeds baud. > If only the reverse were true, > We would all live like lords. > > [...] > > And so these men of industry, > Disputed loud and long, > Each in his own opinion, > Exceeding stiff and strong, > Though each was partly in the right, > Yet mostly in the wrong! > > So, oft in technologic wars, > The disputants, I ween, > Rail on in utter ignorance, > Of what each other mean, > And prate about an Internet, > Not one of them has seen! > > Let's see if I can fill in a few more stanzas... > > - Jonathan Morton > > --001a1140642a3d3599056508b02e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Love it!=C2=A0

Jim

On Feb 12, 2018 1:39 PM, "Jonathan Morton" <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Feb, 2018, at 4:36 pm, = Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org= > wrote:
>
> Anyone on the list a budding poet, interested in taking my text and co= mposing a poem
> something like the original by Saxe?=C2=A0 That would be quite a hoot,= if it can be done.

I can make a start:

It was few men of industry,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 To learning much inclined,
Who sought to fix the Internet,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (With market share in mind),
That evil of congestion,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Might soon be left behind.

Definitely, the pipe-men say,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A wider link we laud,
For congestion occurs only
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 When bandwidth exceeds baud.
If only the reverse were true,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 We would all live like lords.

[...]

And so these men of industry,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yet mostly in the wrong!

So, oft in technologic wars,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Internet,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Not one of them has seen!

Let's see if I can fill in a few more stanzas...

=C2=A0- Jonathan Morton

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