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From: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Google's QUIC has reached NANOG
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:47:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGhGL2CJtOGDuN2SiP4ssjTwAf+DKNsb4enu3NNWcv=gWHejNQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6bi8JEoy+i8jzVRqc3kJisT-SvoGWzr+PQjpcCiCu7UQ@mail.gmail.com>

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I'm a fan of minion, myself. (along with ccn, in the revolutionary
category).

http://csweb1.fandm.edu/jiyengar/papers/minion-pfldnet2010.pdf

Jim



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> The design document is a very valuable read. Tons of good ideas in there...
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RNHkx_VvKWyWg6Lr8SZ-saqsQx7rFV-ev2jRFUoVD34/preview?sle=true
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Bruce Atherton <bruce@callenish.com>
> wrote:
> > On 28/06/2013 3:05 PM, Justin Andrusk wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> So am I the only one concerned that they are looking to use udp instead
> of
> >> tcp?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > It is an important part of the design. They want to multiplex streams
> into a
> > single connection, and ordered packets means one lost packet in one
> stream
> > holds up all the streams. Only way around that is with something other
> than
> > TCP right now. This is a major downside of multiplexing SPDY over using
> > multiple connections, which I believe was one of the prime motivators to
> > develop QUIC.
> >
> > In the FAQ, they mention that they are hoping once they get a good
> design in
> > QUIC some of its ideas can be moved into TCP. Someday.
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Dave Täht
>
> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt:
> http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html
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      reply	other threads:[~2013-06-28 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-28 21:54 Hal Murray
2013-06-28 22:05 ` Justin Andrusk
2013-06-28 23:17   ` Bruce Atherton
2013-06-28 23:19     ` Dave Taht
2013-06-28 23:47       ` Jim Gettys [this message]

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