From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x232.google.com (mail-qt0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0754B3CB38 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x232.google.com with SMTP id w1so1959011qti.4 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:11:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9YBbyVgW7sq9s/DNtnMSbuc0g5IVsYyO4YyBtGTJPtU=; b=WggT/eLtKvCIh+8mrpjsCbgSXSWhxNfrJylUz8P6eeaxyVrvOJK7XPaleLeJTKmKWH umfS91SzP+MwBIOC3tidZElDZ8mFwPUx0TbtoZXe8itm5s2w0jjIEqG/J7TyJodhdZRd /bRdpwdpt6IoqOLb8q3lUxSF1bRezJtYnDY7lhw/9BPoB/N2JeNh7hZrjZXBnhNt8XSk reNK7jxIMNJelJRUiQmCKmyPUrblgkPvZjQMI9nqo6djaftcmzOJCpIgUU+vDlgtZJ0J WZBC8QsMB973sd7yMkE4LtT12G0dEhBmpAVwTH7pvHQhGGxOUkByU2cHhTEbLOkneALM O5Rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=9YBbyVgW7sq9s/DNtnMSbuc0g5IVsYyO4YyBtGTJPtU=; b=XlYuahmAJZ34OhtQJGU7nd72Rd4zgieDvDLNrXIlVTD6ZH4dJFCdURi33Nxztfp4rN i8NNxSU8rAIr5oOswmX+bKp5k8YFkOWPRpy6Ziyq8o1ysjMJkxTWjPrpnDyex40nIVzw orZ2c9RbIqj25jBYTYh6GMYlYrkplW7gFd2SCWBy7kdwJ0Igkdd/PntWgI3AAbTo5Dvw /IpcgtOI37Yp2ndk3yvXx7gO+w7/64ea7CPvv3P6rwRZC+Kp9O4oBGhe7hxN82nT7LUF PIqVLcEsF2/ru2mbBdgF/Jlz9mna4VeDHbm6YqdOI+NDM1sVXuhGlCxPd5TWJzM7kGIr A0VA== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCQb3Kftt3RrR/PlqCEpSJPiCAM+R83XG5JwF1UnF2LgFPTwkVH eb9XMhunYbEI+OyenAgGkHF6a+cq55f2KOeN3KWSsLTY X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225HZ/jCGSI5o49ewHnGWBxTofXFDpfrEB5mpJEUz7mimdSmwxNwd7UnXnMEI2LsUg6CG+DbHpXf65qKQScDrxg= X-Received: by 10.200.28.145 with SMTP id f17mr16301866qtl.15.1518397876277; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:11:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.12.168.232 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:11:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Gettys Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:11:15 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2Al8_srszI5t3GTeBqG8-_IUB3Q Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e08261f140b175e0564f98ebd" Subject: [Bloat] The Blind Men and the Elephant. X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:11:17 -0000 --089e08261f140b175e0564f98ebd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" My version is up: dunno why the ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (It was supposed to go up 7pm ET). https://gettys.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/ We will push this on social media first thing in the morning. Those of you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the ball rolling in the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes up). Thank you all for all of your help. I have tried to credit everyone appropriately as best I can. All the best, Jim --089e08261f140b175e0564f98ebd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My version is up: dunno why t= he ietf web site doesn't have it up yet (It was supposed to go up 7pm E= T).

https://gettys.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-el= ephant/

We will push this on social media first thing in the morning.=C2= =A0 Those of you in Europe, please do so as well (it's best to get the = ball rolling in the morning in Europe before the western hemisphere wakes u= p).

Thank you all for all of your help.=C2=A0 I have tried to credit everyone= appropriately as best I can.

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">All the best,

Jim

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