From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93F1121F118 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 06:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z2so2665305wiv.6 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:41:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pvk88jx6x1Ow5PjyKyYB9iPJI3pd0uXb1W93D023tlc=; b=1Dio6Hehqm4L9EB1NzEC/Y/JFHGFMayC9vDOuGvtxyxCl9bV81zSYQODQkdsxbrxWR ja9q69K8Vb8TUYwKU4nomaQh59NPkbIb926Aa1CeYfba5zOZd47kxRn1OA7+45Rgcus/ BSYfQFZGPwpiZOpnsoDZSvs205To1OWzr/S1GC01OHr4uyei9bxBkdR8hYdXbIfVBS0C Hw6FrMdagDbSbDV9PDZueXZkAevrk4C8J7r2f0/0DeuDtVl+ESoAKyRWCEVYveepuBwJ INz+RI1CrGCSBVmqx9EUXJOpfv++BtqM1mcOnOeXvHKAs2Tnx6ka695dcHdqOM8xjcxp 19Jw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.62.8 with SMTP id u8mr1966551wjr.68.1386513699459; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:41:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.198.66 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 06:41:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20131203222559.GV8066@einstein.kenyonralph.com> <7ieh5pew2d.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <87haakx1ev.wl%jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <20131208012751.GA6382@sesse.net> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 09:41:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5fRViL7OvltPwwiSJaIBRb9sgEs Message-ID: From: Jim Gettys To: Mikael Abrahamsson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba98398885cf404ed06e0ec Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] curious..... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:41:42 -0000 --047d7ba98398885cf404ed06e0ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, Comcast upped my 50/10 service to 100/20 without asking early in the year. We definitely need a better platform; but we've known that for quite a while.... On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > FYI: Norway has at least two entirely distinct ISPs that offer 200 >> Mbit/sec or more. Switzerland has at least two ISPs that offer 150 Mbit/sec >> or more. (All four examples are to private end users; of course, >> availability varies with where you live.) >> > > Yeah, Sweden has a bunch of them as well, 1000/100 is quite common, > 1000/1000 can be had, there is even a small ISP that offers 10000/1000, but > that's mostly a marketing thing, they don't have any customers willing to > pay 400 USD per month for that service. > > The comment about the WNDR3800 not being able to push this is of course > relevant, so I guess we need a better platform if we want to do testing for > these higher speeds. > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --047d7ba98398885cf404ed06e0ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yea= h, Comcast upped my 50/10 service to 100/20 without asking early in the yea= r.

We definitely need a better platform; but we've known that for quite a = while....


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.= se> wrote:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Steina= r H. Gunderson wrote:

FYI: Norway has at least two entirely distinct ISPs that offer 200 Mbit/sec= or more. Switzerland has at least two ISPs that offer 150 Mbit/sec or more= . (All four examples are to private end users; of course, availability vari= es with where you live.)

Yeah, Sweden has a bunch of them as well, 1000/100 is quite common, 1000/10= 00 can be had, there is even a small ISP that offers 10000/1000, but that&#= 39;s mostly a marketing thing, they don't have any customers willing to= pay 400 USD per month for that service.

The comment about the WNDR3800 not being able to push this is of course rel= evant, so I guess we need a better platform if we want to do testing for th= ese higher speeds.

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Mikael Abrahamsson =A0 =A0email: swmike@swm.pp.se

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