From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1FC121F1CF for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iecrt8 with SMTP id rt8so20759377iec.0 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=469BA1Z25QtM971y0Is3hwRFUOJRwHW9aHmA1hcRX74=; b=JP7qBVsgtWJ42PpvN5/CGIUXyrne7qfdnK09aUnPgRzhhaDXkH/tFZYbdD4DAKN8nX Jxy2/MMemyH77rhu3NxePPajmlzBfdKTtf+PHrI5QQ7SkqcrANp70jI+na8kR04ouZVs RWeWj8hlOream8WJ8zY5c+Hm2X7E0vIR5D3PC4FvKHJETg+WmxiwNM1e7ivro6/0YAvL SrOP7n9uTadWCsIUy2shnpYxN9O9Vw41RSL3OlasnGQEr2WyFyC1iumcxScDJ1awPQBq ZdEYKu0NUK5LxyVLzd3dkGWeiEZc6cWZwfBoSQ6QnP6MlzBMbUSs0YXL4puKHkUP96rk vNVg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.9.67 with SMTP id j64mr22043733ioi.39.1430234537112; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: justinbeech@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.107.42 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:22:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:22:17 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8uOw_btP9DGNNuqxy1-XIOBekqE Message-ID: From: jb To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113df6d687de130514ca6d12 Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] the dslreports png X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:23:04 -0000 --001a113df6d687de130514ca6d12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree! but I don't want to rush. What latency should substitute? average? median? latency during upload? download? both? should it be the excess over idle ping, expressed as a multiplier? an absolute value? Most people as in 98% of people who use this test do so without any reference to instructions the forums or anything else and all of them "expect" to see latency pings that are similar to speedtest.net measure of how close the speed test server is. And I haven't even sorted out the latency bugs. I just now asked the nginx development list why IE11 has problems doing http pings because it does a weird two-step of high-normal-high-normal, but when talking to nginx only= ! it behaves ok when talking to google.com. There is a jsfiddle you can play with to see the problem (I hope!) http://jsfiddle.net/qe44nbwh/ change nginx.org to google.com, using IE11. (other browsers work fine) On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > http://dfkrkqaqb1zsx.cloudfront.net/speedtest/cdn/377727.png > > is showing the base latency without load. It would be more effective > if it showed the > latency with load. > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 > --001a113df6d687de130514ca6d12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree! but I don't want to rush. What latency should= substitute? average?
median? latency during upload? download? both? sh= ould it be the excess over
idle ping, expressed as a multiplier? = an absolute value?

Most people as in 98% of pe= ople who use this test do so without any reference to instructions the foru= ms or anything else and all of them "expect" to see latency
=
pings that are similar to speedtest.n= et measure of how close the speed test
server is.
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And I haven't even sorted out the latency bugs. I just no= w asked the nginx
development list why IE11 has problems doing ht= tp pings because it does=C2=A0
a weird two-step of high-normal-hi= gh-normal, but when talking to nginx only!
it behaves ok when tal= king to google.com.

<= div>There is a jsfiddle you can play with to see the problem (I hope!)
change nginx= .org to google.com, using IE11. (othe= r browsers work fine)

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Dave Ta= ht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
http://dfkrkqaqb1zsx.cloudfront.net/speedtest/cdn/3= 77727.png

is showing the base latency without load. It would be more effective
if it showed the
latency with load.

--
Dave T=C3=A4ht
Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67

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