If the tool were to list ISPs in descending order of a bloaty factor from best (like this one) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/375736 to worst (like I don't know yet), what would be the ranking factor? Call B the "blue" series of latencies. Call G the "idle" series Call O the "orange" series What is fn1(fn2(B),fn2(G),fn2(O)) that generates an open-ended bloat factor, where 0 is no problem ? What is fn1() that takes a series of latencies and produces one latency? What is fn1() that takes three latencies, and produces a bloat factor? And then having obtained a "bloat factor" for one result, do you combine them using an average? Also should there be another input such as connection speed. Should higher speed lines be held to a higher standard? The "bloat factor" can be what is reported next to Ping on a test result. Should it be an infinite set of numbers from 0 .. infinity or should it be a grade A+ down to F ? (a grade would be more user-friendly). On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/ZytYb4ZkMdY > > -- > Dave Täht > Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >