From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA6433B25E for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 20:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id b80so132656777wme.1 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:09:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0ZyYqZaOYi+wu2DhHn8MXd0LC2OBh3Mg0Vun17HfIgM=; b=eaGBfQWYxspDfAgS4zCF9lJccmLSX2l5awuePWM0Y2yPbKKr6hqVpaizx78EEm6otr NMC6SgwRO1Lw4qfCXQ1YKdI4Rq80xLWTzw7vSTeGHuK1vmRhMFPbBiiDGRm3/0brH1gG K3uckm8WdBsApFhCeriePY/J10n2JT2exx2uJAUV4kMcU9qOZCfUbdzv2+uYY+sabbc/ lDj1aiSKeBD4zNaiil8QQ70cEWVaWpXl2zLnqi7ea7MBEOPn7WiXUL1yX2tPih2/QAfl BEIrw63zghIlvAUBwJHcKCd/lWll9a7WdkHtg63lTTIZze4o8UMme2YqMwheUb+YOrvt eFzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0ZyYqZaOYi+wu2DhHn8MXd0LC2OBh3Mg0Vun17HfIgM=; b=ewpl5+YfW7sZnqoOIf6Sbyidbugq+8uhgKODk+GPOj2lMozy+/YG9oDY7agN/WBrUQ llz+wVw9iE5mImV0H4nTJU9awwJaDG+OLhicq3+Zklio2ePTi57M8ypmfF4RSl8n1CGz J6RUSMolss0qkyCm7HfC9AepTAGFX5YUnLeq7Dnv7lW6Q4UUj6LKo4ZmJUBNrKONGQDE MrAPkKLFt8S6Fksuro1JCERD2tdQpHJzw89ATbUlJUfGIaCDLjgqW9u3hNOhMO7C4bJE sSHvaoY9Wt4aXloYIxAkXzdCf5vou/vb5n8ZLOF3YxUAPGnU0ClUky92QQc7WqsggVTI fwcA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvf7Wz9U5frsdWGOjB68I7/ERpKf5uLxOYcpjLnbEZD1uCnkgKGBkM8CaTtueMiObLDZgWenk5IvDcxN7g== X-Received: by 10.194.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr13835529wjv.166.1477354191908; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: justinbeech@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.207.134 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: jb Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 11:09:51 +1100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KTqVjZJrHHdIKtu-o02O3aNwpNs Message-ID: To: Benjamin Cronce Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonas_M=C3=A5rtensson?= , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd92196d0f5bb053fa553c5 Subject: Re: [Bloat] 22 seconds til bloat on gfiber? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 00:09:53 -0000 --047d7bd92196d0f5bb053fa553c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You should not need to create new buttons, I set bloat high frequency as an anonymous user in preferences, saved the prefs, ran the test - but as http - and it worked. However bloat high frequency was auto-disabled for https because I was unsure it was valid to do high frequency pinging over SSL. Here is a result of turning it on: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5435977 you can see in the bloat graph, the difference in ping resolution. However the test duration is not changed, if you want to run for longer you should increase the duration parameters. I've disabled the disabling of bloat high frequency over https so give it another go. first, go to preferences and verify the checkbox is checked. then run it. Send me a link to the results if you don't see any difference still. thanks -Justin On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Benjamin Cronce wrote: > WDM-PON, giving each customer their own lambda of bandwidth. Effectively = a > 1:1 split. > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson < > martensson.jonas@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Dave Taht wrote: >>> >>> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5408767 >>>> >>> >>> What's the setup here? Someone has told me that Google Fiber is PON? So >>> there is an ONT at the customer prem which takes fiber and hands off so= me >>> kind of 1GBASE-T? What more? >>> >>> Just trying to figure out what device has ~13-15 megabyte buffer so it >>> can induce 1200ms buffer lag at 1 gigabit/s. >> >> >> Of course I don't know the setup in this particular case but from what >> I've heard, gfiber is mostly GPON with 1:16 splits. They have used >> different ONT versions but the "current" generation seems to be a custom >> ONT from an ODM: >> >> https://support.google.com/fiber/answer/6035992?hl=3Den&ref_topic=3D2667= 450 >> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Google_Fiber_Jack_v2_(GFLT110) >> >> Also, this may be interesting: >> >> https://gfiber-review.googlesource.com/#/c/1232/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > --047d7bd92196d0f5bb053fa553c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You should not need to create new buttons, I set bloat hig= h frequency as an anonymous user in preferences, saved the prefs, ran the t= est - but as http - and it worked. However bloat high frequency was auto-di= sabled for https because I was unsure it was valid to do high frequency pin= ging over SSL.

Here is a result of turning it on:
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you can see = in the bloat graph, the difference in ping resolution.

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However the test duration is not changed, if you want to run for longe= r=C2=A0
you should increase the duration parameters.
I've disabled the disabling of bloat high frequency over h= ttps so give
it another go. first, go to preferences and verify t= he checkbox is checked.
then run it. Send me a link to the result= s if you don't see any difference
still.

=
thanks
-Justin


On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Ben= jamin Cronce <bcronce@gmail.com> wrote:
WDM-PON, giving each customer their own lamb= da of bandwidth. Effectively a 1:1 split.
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 a= t 11:57 AM, Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson <martensson.jonas@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmik= e@swm.pp.se> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Dave Taht wrote:

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5408767

What's the setup here? Someone has told me that Google Fiber is PON? So= there is an ONT at the customer prem which takes fiber and hands off some = kind of 1GBASE-T? What more?

Just trying to figure out what device has ~13-15 megabyte buffer so it can = induce 1200ms buffer lag at 1 gigabit/s.

=
Of course I don't know the setup in this particular case but from = what I've heard, gfiber is mostly GPON with 1:16 splits. They have used= different ONT versions but the "current" generation seems to be = a custom ONT from an ODM:


Also, this may be interesting:



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