From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-x229.google.com (mail-ie0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5A221F503 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iebrs15 with SMTP id rs15so99644988ieb.3 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:21:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=APuFiz+0cqlUXchXVTzL5yu/hJ3jdDU/0f5e2tZy6aY=; b=RzCLrJd+oQI1hY+2rMwK02EZ7vgx6ZU2jlMlhkjc6XrhghYg59ZnFxVhne99Sp6RzQ +qA73hGJB0OL4FKmSx1kxf2jrZ17bHOIyaGJEZVSIoYUWREvUQUKHUVJoSqLoqzaRnAD MwYJ1uZEQDO3DJOd90lvfl/89pPif6po0y0pEuiDhgGiqJ8+bti+RjX3RQn4Syx4bs8I jt5aca0t038YOlj5u08hRaWjWMOUxZqgTLQ5/kv7aDRh1puJ+O73VYD6nK2RoaNFjqVx vZrPl9P8rByeTVWPigGD1V7LbO0ExWEQggIr3EivGgsOqZBc8IYDcbw/Ynch9rVtKlnt yq5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.9.67 with SMTP id j64mr15856677ioi.39.1429446078622; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: justinbeech@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.107.42 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:21:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1C516386-75C7-4A53-B7E0-7D3A8238C3CE@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:21:18 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lf1417SNX7m-0k7yiQxsRr1riQI Message-ID: From: jb To: Dave Taht , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113df6d6bdf257051412d952 Subject: Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 12:21:48 -0000 --001a113df6d6bdf257051412d952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave, Is that rrul_be test stealing upload capacity because the Comcast scatter graph shows some distinctly popular upload bands for their different products: 12mbit, 6mbt, 24mbit, but your test is very low for upload. Some people on linux with firefox got completely tripped up by the realtime graphs, they seem to choke up the browser, and that ruins the speed. I thought I'd fixed the test to be as light as possible on linux+firefox but maybe not? > This was a test taken *during* a 2 minute rrul_be test. > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320377 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > This was a test taken *during* a 2 minute rrul_be test. > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320377 > > Flient (formerly netperf-wrapper) data here: > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/lorna-wifi.tgz > > Puzzle over this! > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/lorna-wifi/reconcile_this.png and > the rawer data.... in comparison to this and other of these new > speedtest reports. > > There are a couple other tests of the same link in the same > configuration (laptop on lap 10 feet from the access point through a > wall) [1] in the same dir testing upload and download (without > simultaneously running the new dslreport tests) > > CDF plots are nice. So are mountain plots. > > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/lorna-wifi/wifi_download.png > > > > > > > [1] I was trying for comfort^H^H^H^H^^H^H^H^Hrealism > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > > This test was taken on linux, about 20 feet and one room away from the > > access point: > > > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320328 > > > > This was taken on the same box, about 10 feet and one room from the > > access point. > > > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320340 > > > > In all cases, the uplink is a comcast box configured for 55Mbit down, > > 5Mbit up and just to make it weird this is a two router configuration, > > where the nearest hop is over a powerline box (TP600) before hitting > > the net. > > > > I *like* that the test does not let you switch browser tabs (something > > I do instinctively when something takes longer than 3 seconds.) > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Rich Brown > wrote: > >> Folks, > >> > >> I am delighted to pass along the news that Justin has added latency > measurements into the Speed Test at DSLReports.com. > >> > >> Go to: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest and click the button for > your Internet link. This controls the number of simultaneous connections > that get established between your browser and the speedtest server. After > you run the test, click the green "Results + Share" button to see detaile= d > info. For the moment, you need to be logged in to see the latency results= . > There's a "register" link on each page. > >> > >> The speed test measures latency using websocket pings: Justin says tha= t > a zero-latency link can give 1000 Hz - faster than a full HTTP ping. I ju= st > ran a test and got 48 msec latency from DSLReports, while ping gstatic.co= m > gave 38-40 msec, so they're pretty fast. > >> > >> You can leave feedback on this page - > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29910594-FYI-for-general-feedback-on-the= -new-speedtest > - or wait 'til Justin creates a new Bufferbloat topic on the forums. > >> > >> Enjoy! > >> > >> Rich > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bloat mailing list > >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 > > > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --001a113df6d6bdf257051412d952 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi Dave, Is that rrul_be test stealing= upload capacity because the Comcast scatter graph shows some distinctly po= pular upload bands for their different products: 12mbit, 6mbt, 24mbit, but = your test is very low for upload.
Some people on linux with firefox got completely tripped = up by the realtime graphs, they seem to choke up the browser, and that ruin= s the speed. I thought I'd fixed the test to be as light as possible on= linux+firefox but maybe not?

> This was a test taken *during* a 2 minute rrul_be test.
>
= >=C2=A0http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320377

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015= at 6:38 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
This was a test taken *during* a 2 minute rrul_= be test.

ht= tp://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320377

Flient (formerly netperf-wrapper) data here:
http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/lorna-wifi.tgz

Puzzle over this!
http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/lorna-wifi/recon= cile_this.png and
the rawer data.... in comparison to this and other of these new
speedtest reports.

There are a couple other tests of the same link in the=C2=A0 same
configuration (laptop on lap 10 feet from the access point through a
wall) [1] in the same dir testing upload and download (without
simultaneously running the new dslreport tests)

CDF plots are nice. So are mountain plots.

http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/lorna-wifi/wifi_d= ownload.png






[1] I was trying for comfort^H^H^H^H^^H^H^H^Hrealism

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> This test was taken on linux, about 20 feet and one room away from the=
> access point:
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320328
>
> This was taken on the same box, about 10 feet and one room from the > access point.
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/320340
>
> In all cases, the uplink is a comcast box configured for 55Mbit down,<= br> > 5Mbit up and just to make it weird this is a two router configuration,=
> where the nearest hop is over a powerline box (TP600) before hitting > the net.
>
> I *like* that the test does not let you switch browser tabs (something=
> I do instinctively when something takes longer than 3 seconds.)
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am delighted to pass along the news that Justin has added latenc= y measurements into the Speed Test at DSLReports.com.
>>
>> Go to: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest and click the button for y= our Internet link. This controls the number of simultaneous connections tha= t get established between your browser and the speedtest server. After you = run the test, click the green "Results + Share" button to see det= ailed info. For the moment, you need to be logged in to see the latency res= ults. There's a "register" link on each page.
>>
>> The speed test measures latency using websocket pings: Justin says= that a zero-latency link can give 1000 Hz - faster than a full HTTP ping. = I just ran a test and got 48 msec latency from DSLReports, while ping gstatic.com gave 38-40 msec= , so they're pretty fast.
>>
>> You can leave feedback on this page - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29910594-FYI-for-general-fe= edback-on-the-new-speedtest - or wait 'til Justin creates a new Buf= ferbloat topic on the forums.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Rich
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> Bloat@lists.bufferb= loat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>
>
>
> --
> Dave T=C3=A4ht
> Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware**
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr= 67



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