From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE25121FB10 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ioeg141 with SMTP id g141so145508224ioe.3 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UnQCv+EpBaGfi+9Evl2FBh9BmqgYoHJR+CWwKnF2GMo=; b=RAqo0AHvwzjC9FYlQYN1DHDP0Fdy5nQnFxtmnGWcfViwiNEPr73/c+mHLHUrv41TSm TJvPP4YwX9GOZloPSSN2CgaH+k44Ly4Bz9aGxkw26Rw8RyJt2uRdVVStVcPa+1HKdatD 9l/R8vhWqN3sdj20GdzlAgH9dzlFt+ePUI3PeSu0KyqnN2V6/X8ckUjjl+k7EKJH0h6y AcTO/5/jD8eMZWnKwqxQL/+dn5/gZuz6eDpDvCu1cLmXKe90yGsmdJpww5UxXnJs7la8 2adXLNJ1QJu+ZXbkiCIqEkikuungiOgeQe/NNj3ctWGMJKnd7ULfpe1tsj38YkT4wgo1 Q6PQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.10.138 with SMTP id 10mr19050511iok.118.1438610020349; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: justinbeech@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.107.42 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:53:40 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sQJbxly1s4i_pv5fJknleiNzIB8 Message-ID: From: jb To: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f94a63bbd02051c687f9c Subject: [Bloat] came across an unexpected side-effect of bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:54:10 -0000 --001a113f94a63bbd02051c687f9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dave's email made me remember something I came across today. So someone was looking for ways to take advantage of Amazon Prime unlimited photo uploading. They had 4.5TB of data to upload. While researching a little I came across a message on the Amazon support forums that said after 3 hours of uploading to Amazon, their cable modem would crash and reboot. The reason was that the SNMP the cable modem needed to stay healthy was timing out (due to the excessive latency induced by the continuous uploading). The author didn't know it was bufferbloat, of course. I thought that was an interesting little result of never testing "full speed" for long periods of time. Imagine buying a car that had never been tested at top speed for an hour at a proving ground. cheers -Justin --001a113f94a63bbd02051c687f9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave's email made me remember something I came across = today.

So someone was looking for ways to take advantage= of Amazon Prime unlimited photo uploading. They had 4.5TB of data to uploa= d.

While researching a little I came across a mess= age on the Amazon support forums that said after 3 hours of uploading to Am= azon, their cable modem would crash and reboot. The reason was that the SNM= P the cable modem needed to stay healthy was timing out (due to the excessi= ve latency induced by the continuous uploading). The author didn't know= it was bufferbloat, of course.

I thought that was= an interesting little result of never testing "full speed" for l= ong periods of time.

Imagine buying a car that had= never been tested at top speed for an hour at a proving ground.
=
cheers
-Justin

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