From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 450A13B29D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id d26so12588666wrc.0 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:42:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ti4MLMhKcaxwtrccxVtpnlqgLiIm0ucJ2rlRQzr3Op4=; b=scHDSeMlS4UXyMGkHsAMGR4w1xP7jff814ykeigN4fTq7saWNUwWzDAwpC5GNYwGxI vevDgDGXbGTNjd4yOCDwZa5IT7vWZnTuPuU3kIOY3CO8f+cX1CKNUThSxxrjdh1bw6tk 2jkheF4iKnn8iSqJ3mFK/+EQmHSDDXZmrrE71dbeTRuTqWQ1T8IKx4+NQyEjFM/Krunb xtC37Hd1iNUdfED/oc5n0Stunll9VG9SWFMAld40iKdEMehaF91SaMVKTldPk6IcYN2e y5si4eXy32ES7Pij0UdD+t9FJ4VoZc3qI/ZRdKE+LdZONjfG+4MRp7B3TgNeG3nq/bD8 iEHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ti4MLMhKcaxwtrccxVtpnlqgLiIm0ucJ2rlRQzr3Op4=; b=FFRAFbwsW8v7iiajYKy/xjP2EoLHdUknGcuQ2cdzYpT8yWe/XIQlXPKd14dfgrRuFp tGgte2zMmMd2+EwWUGWyCQl+fXSNiXJhwKoyOl88i78XGVYxIoJXUXcJ80WyfPS4+ksA Cb/n6VSiMsJxDWjliUuhLBEfgKcSbQwAdFKq5Y7heuzF7dr52univEVGO3dVQzuetbII kZJMVl30U6pLCwzQKLhmL2MYIEBNb0MUFdef7poFtTjR0upoRdMmzk//K+CJSI4nOk6M QL/x55vGqlTZoHxA2x4WTaK6lhJKhVonhq8rMRvr+Te4kYPpI2xeHY7S9yIezJ14Ukxi Iu3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531YSpDqNSP78waTgNFZrDckFZ3pkAO8RP+0W6Kt7+n7NnPIj22q A/8G0Di0oOz8xaUh2XkJWlSx5WIfZU82YVje4jSW9+1LjFIn+Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxEmNdVV4RslnyjTjLsdv23LS76aCpzewjPTEsazfBHElvyGkuVrCG/a1Aa0HDOaYkUOC/qEYP8yimUo27jR4A= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:534c:: with SMTP id t12mr21116074wrv.219.1629834173012; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:42:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Matt Mathis Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:42:40 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ed97ca05ca53568a" Subject: [Bloat] Latency, Bufferbloat, Responsiveness & Internet Quality - MLab community discussion, Wednesday, August 25 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 19:42:55 -0000 --000000000000ed97ca05ca53568a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Measurement Lab is hosting a community discussion panel about measuring bufferbloat at scale, and related topics. This will be an open discussion - the audience will be able to ask questions and make comments, within our community guidelines . 11a ET, 8a PT, Wednesday, August 25. Please register to receive the zoom link. (You will also receive announcements for future MLab community calls.) Thanks, --MM-- ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Lai Yi Ohlsen Date: Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:40 AM Subject: [M-Lab-Discuss] Latency, Bufferbloat, Responsiveness & Internet Quality - discussion (next) Wednesday, August 25 To: Internet performance is often measured by download and upload =E2=80=9Cspee= d=E2=80=9D but there are other metrics that can help measure connectivity, such as latency, bufferbloat and a more recently discussed metric: responsiveness. = Join us next Wednesday, August 25, 2021 from 11am-12:30pm Eastern for a conversation with Internet Measurement researchers with expertise and interest in each of these metrics including: Matt Mathis, Senior Research Scientist, Measurement Lab, Google Matt Mathis has been working on Internet performance research and development since 1990. His work includes measurement tools, models and improvements to protocol standards. He participated in MLab from its inception in 2009, and came to Google in 2010 to find a larger platform on which to stand. Dave Taht Dave Taht and members of the Bufferbloat Project have made vast improvements to the Internet and to WiFi, as described in the book, =E2=80=9CBufferbloat and Be= yond =E2=80=9D. He has = lectured at Stanford and MIT, NANOG, RIPE, USENIX, IEEE, and the IETF. His R&D work on AQM/FQ technologies on the Internet have been integrated into the Linux, OSX, and IOS kernels, cable modems, and many WiFi chips, and he has created and managed Internet improvement initiatives such as CeroWrt, make-wifi-fas= t , cake, and more. From these projects we have seen major innovations in congestion control algorithms such as BQL, FQ_codel, FQ_pie, and BBR. Christoph Paasch, Networking Architect, Apple Christoph Paasch has been working on transport layer networking since 2010. Focusing on extensions to TCP, like Multipath TCP or TCP Fast Open. From specification (in the case of MPTCP) and research to the implementation and large scale deployments at Apple. Lately he has shifted his focus on improving the network properties that really matter to the end-user experience by exposing measurement tools to raise awareness to these issues. "Responsiveness under working conditions" being now the first primary target. The conversation will be moderated by Lai Yi Ohlsen, Director of Measurement Lab, a fiscally sponsored project of Code for Science & Society. Our casual conversation will include discussion about the significance of these metrics as well as the challenges their collection presents. We welcome audience questions, answers, challenges, and discussion. The discussion will be technical but no familiarity with M-Lab is required; all we ask is that participants review and respect our community guidelines . If you have previously RSVP=E2=80=99d to our community calls, you should ha= ve already received a calendar invite with a Zoom link included. If not, please reply directly to this email. If you have not previously RSVP=E2=80=99d, but would like to attend, please= do so here and indicate that you=E2=80=99d like to be attended to the =E2=80=9CInterne= t Research=E2=80=9D meetings. You=E2=80=99ll be sent a Zoom link shortly after. Please note that our conversation will be recorded. If you attend, you will be asked to give your consent to being recorded. The recording will be published and distributed openly. If you have any questions, please feel free to reply to this email directly or write to laiyi@measurementlab.net. --=20 Lai Yi Ohlsen Director, Measurement Lab Code for Science & Society --000000000000ed97ca05ca53568a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Measurement= Lab is hosting a community discussion panel about measuring bufferbloat at= scale, and related topics.=C2=A0 =C2=A0This will be an open discussion - t= he audience will be able to ask questions and make comments, within our=C2= =A0communi= ty guidelines.=C2=A0

11a E= T, 8a PT,=C2=A0Wednesday, August 25.

Please register =C2=A0to receive the zoom link.=C2=A0 (You will also receive announcemen= ts for future MLab community calls.)

Thanks,
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From: Lai Yi O= hlsen <laiyi@measurementlab.net>
Date: Wed, Aug 18, 2021 a= t 11:40 AM
Subject: [M-Lab-Discuss] Latency, Bufferbloat, Responsiveness= & Internet Quality - discussion (next) Wednesday, August 25
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Internet p= erformance is often measured by download and upload =E2=80=9Cspeed=E2=80=9D= but there are other metrics that can help measure connectivity, such as la= tency, bufferbloat and a more recently discussed metric: responsiveness. Join us next Wednesday, August 25, 2021 from 11a= m-12:30pm Eastern for a conversation with Internet Measurement= researchers with expertise and interest in each of these metrics including= :=C2=A0


Matt Mathis, Senior Research Sc= ientist, Measurement Lab, Google

Matt Mathis has been worki= ng on Internet performance research and development since 1990.=C2=A0 His w= ork includes measurement tools, models and improvements to protocol standar= ds.=C2=A0 He participated in MLab from its inception in 2009, and came to G= oogle in 2010 to find a larger platform on which to stand.


Dave Taht=C2=A0

Dave Taht and members of the = Bufferbloat Project have made vast improvements to the Internet and to WiFi, as describ= ed in the book, =E2=80=9CBufferbl= oat and Beyond= =E2=80=9D. He has lectured at Stanford and MIT, NANOG, RIPE, USENIX, IEEE, = and the IETF. His R&D work on AQM/FQ technologies on the Internet have = been integrated into the Linux, OSX, and IOS kernels, cable modems, and man= y WiFi chips, and he has created and managed Internet improvement initiativ= es such as CeroWrt, make-wifi-fast, cake, and more. From these projects= we have seen major innovations in congestion control algorithms such as BQ= L, FQ_codel, FQ_pie, and BBR.=C2=A0


Chr= istoph Paasch, Networking Architect, Apple

Christoph Paasch = has been working on transport layer networking since 2010. Focusing on exte= nsions to TCP, like Multipath TCP or TCP Fast Open. From specification (in = the case of MPTCP) and research to the implementation and large scale deplo= yments at Apple. Lately he has shifted his focus on improving the network p= roperties that really matter to the end-user experience by exposing measure= ment tools to raise awareness to these issues. "Responsiveness under w= orking conditions" being now the first primary target.


<= p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><= span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-se= rif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:norm= al;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-w= rap">The conversation will be moderated by Lai Yi Ohlsen, Director of Measu= rement Lab, a fiscally sponsored project of Code for Science & Society.= =C2=A0


Our casual conversation will include discussion = about the significance of these metrics as well as the challenges their col= lection presents. We welcome audience questions, answers, challenges, and d= iscussion. The discussion will be technical but no familiarity with M-Lab i= s required; all we ask is that participants review and respect our <= a href=3D"https://www.measurementlab.net/community-guidelines/" style=3D"te= xt-decoration-line:none" target=3D"_blank">community gu= idelines.=C2=A0


If you have previously= RSVP=E2=80=99d to our community calls, you should have already received a = calendar invite with a Zoom link included. If not, please reply directly to= this email.=C2=A0


If you have not previously RSVP=E2= =80=99d, but would like to attend, please do so here and indicate that you= =E2=80=99d like to be attended to the =E2=80=9CInternet Research=E2=80=9D m= eetings. You=E2=80=99ll be sent a Zoom link shortly after.


Please note that our conversation will be recorded. If = you attend, you will be asked to give your consent to being recorded. The r= ecording will be published and distributed openly.=C2=A0=C2=A0

If you have any questions, please feel free to reply to this email = directly or write to laiy= i@measurementlab.net.

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