From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7810621F2B8 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id uz6so44188261obc.9 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:13:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4vrsM8RhYpRizPtd5xxz4oX5LTpLlaNcTk5O+oNp710=; b=M4ihKr98z+JSuCFOZ/rA5FabAnzMYuaASfrLdO1HZ6Fq4m9bN+UY/UTN7uC5tNvZuZ SlHU4AxpKZ1GDay3CGk83QD4h3k3/IkKjPcJyLsScrMcdynLUfQgz7wdFkquHvW7zJeT 5mWfA9yBUEwxv7Ac5voiHFf1gS8jE+TiQl8dBJy9pW+zCVyEipvxtKX5xvFhM6rcbdwx CsPBtM6pct/aeRnxRdY5TrRkbf3TLFKR3SlS64AE9e3OZUANgJDFr30R7IhP2iiFMSkj n7V7JDs0Z/v1yrKNCnbOq0QkhS7FgEtM5iSaKdUL695EUzT9K9PGrpcKcL6UlcQx1ke9 zWIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4vrsM8RhYpRizPtd5xxz4oX5LTpLlaNcTk5O+oNp710=; b=cB5WkrAU0VQi7bzdaWUnk3YfTJtjMblBqWdtCIpPeEZpH/pXA47+rbrRpmkfBsybEx QQHWXtVkzKdHdZJ1M6fgaGvJ52YE0fIA2QPwMTJvGntYY2nkMByljdouE+CP6A+j6Dgb DqOKQ03ANyGLRDzIg6tkBDF+11Mv6aS67fLTlE+JFGWppAUwISezBszUMN86le++a/hF U50GeT+NvN0f9FEsREWLBBclGTbjlit36XXAVycydeQ6HYJaH4JdxRn9U97nMb1Z07xO aI/tHlWZc1Z+Q2XOnaSYXzkVzFXxbcaeh99zyze4+A3roK///pjGWdyheNgbBDWfu3Fu HtRg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm7y/+DnCBFRJWGBt97iMKGd3pyputMfD+xqRSBeikSIXY9sIh1hBfbyFPfev14J+mmJ5j7 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.226.198 with SMTP id z189mr11164040oig.64.1424794404172; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.87.202 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:13:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:13:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Mathis To: sahil grover Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140918056eb0e050fd7cce5 Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] RED against bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:13:53 -0000 --001a1140918056eb0e050fd7cce5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 RED doesn't work so well, by hindsight it has the wrong estimators and control functions. However every algorithm on the table today is in some sense derived from that ground breaking work. "Red in a different light" and others are the stepping stones between then and now. Thanks, --MM-- The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Alan Kay Privacy matters! We know from recent events that people are using our services to speak in defiance of unjust governments. We treat privacy and security as matters of life and death, because for some users, they are. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:43 AM, sahil grover wrote: > (i) First of all,i want to know whether RED was implemented or not? > if not then what were the reasons(major) ? > anyone please tell me in simple words here only,because i don't want to > read any paper like "RED in a different light". > > (ii)Second, as we all know RED controls the average queue size from > growing. > So it also controls delay in a way or we can say is a solution to > bufferbloat problem. Then why it was not considered. > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > --001a1140918056eb0e050fd7cce5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RED doesn't work so well, by hindsight it has the wron= g estimators and control functions. =C2=A0 However every algorithm on the t= able today is in some sense derived from that ground breaking work.

"Red in a diff= erent light" and others are the stepping stones between then and now.<= /div>

Thanks,
--MM--
The best way to pre= dict the future is to create it. =C2=A0- Alan Kay

Privacy matters!= =C2=A0 We know from recent events that people are using our services to spe= ak in defiance of unjust governments. =C2=A0 We treat privacy and security = as matters of life and death, because for some users, they are.
=

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:43 AM, sahil grove= r <sahilgrover013@gmail.com> wrote:
(i) First of all,i want to know whether RED was implemented or not?=C2= =A0
if not then what were= the reasons(major) ?
anyo= ne please tell me in simple words here only,because i don't want to rea= d any paper like "RED in a different light".

(= ii)Second, as we all know RED controls the =C2=A0average queue size from gr= owing.
So it also controls delay in a way or =C2=A0we can say= =C2=A0is a solution to bufferbloat problem. Then why it was not considered= .

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