Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] tp-link request for SQM

[Luca Muscariello <muscariello@ieee.org>]

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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 3:35 PM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 2021, at 15:18, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:00 AM Luca Muscariello <muscariello@ieee.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Test using a tp-link AP EAP 245
> >>
> >>
> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=bbcc5ef5-e677-4f27-aa04-1849db81d0f5
> >
> > Nice.
> >
> > A kvetch is that I really wish they also tested up and down at the same
> time.
> >
> > Another kvetch is I think the test needs to run longer at these speeds.
> >
> > Another another kvetch is they factor in baseline latency to determine
> > if the link is suitable for gaming or not.
>
>         Which is the sane thing to do... IMHO. For any "twitch"-type
> reation-time gated gaming all players need to be in an acceptable range of
> "RTTs" to and from the server so that all perceive the world similarly and
> nobody has an unfair advantage/disadvantage, so absolute RTT does seem to
> matter. I would agree that jitter is nastier in that is will cause
> "randomish" variations of the RTT, but then the known solution against
> jitter is additional buffering (large enough to simply even out the unequal
> jittered packet arrival times) which in turn just increases the "RTT", no?
> (I guess no game really does this enough, so jitter stays the constant
> problem for internet game-play).
> >


Mobile multiplayer competitive games, like PvP, 5v5 such as CoDM, Critical
Ops, LoL Wild Rift may have very different ways to face/conceal network
conditions based on the experience the studio wants to offer to the gamer.



>
> > We had them participating on this list at some point....
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 7:48 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> tp-link, is, so far as I know, the last major home router vendor NOT
> >>> shipping a SQM system. Perhaps this could be modded up with someones
> >>> with accounts?
> >>>
> >>> https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/forum/topic/511156
> >>>
> >>>
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