From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89E533B2A4 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 20:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id c20so17283710ejm.3 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 17:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lp51h0Qul/HO+ln5CHvG8r5cM73iSE0nbdymwHXRJss=; b=Rl9YqZ90gQO8udWUOay59vwFAYVPdu4eVRslXqx/y/f62AqyFg4gdM2Ccx72NeaUgX zh6Ea3VfUi0pri0VfG/xLp5IaTHDQRb3kuVvoiBi3GmuE0qp0tix+9gqPx8rYYw9h7Jt jFQuytbvuC/v9v6mXAHddJa5zYbmTT5sPLsZY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lp51h0Qul/HO+ln5CHvG8r5cM73iSE0nbdymwHXRJss=; b=ThYuuqyGPBZVf90C9KT5bMXlZflokKmhMxdYmfMvjyeQgnFJ3zZXLavTlK/g/dQ3e7 6GDQW7SvwOIrSMOqvErkRxX1TGV4hb921FltuXv6L8nIPrDK5+GEKOTerVmlv0z9sStG 5p12Nn4slnKZmHEqqwpL/KQOrEBuOiJZ+xUwSBDJyCmtmOsbCcTbsNWxb/5PXPvEqL1T 4fOryTPN2qPFzzGAkszHyCWKs1ymsDzwhX6mn4u6SPE3a0bg3diHHKKqqosnVqUJmJ1Y jbi3++rq5s3r0kaFd3bnCBuDzZULLXo01BRGtuY236B7aapzVEOTKLMsduuF83cKPXFv 8Y2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5331k6nV3+ORbT6B2x8+PI6vZWeALtWf1SzGTI7Or6gBZiPW+zXD T9kKmgqgSGhQ2LUrJBtQSVMVVQDibcKaCO+fVxzn3FPmaJLt/gFnkiBhd9i9g3xMGUfawe6WeU+ GwcVu8d7vwsN3/gF5tTKziP0r6TjNRw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwN1IXN2l1eQYSXTAZAS7+NvJWTtoZWy1OTWtdJpFvNb5svriRfuz604UF3S2/UrQt3rZLeVkveau+k4PguUWc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7848:: with SMTP id lb8mr8819511ejc.494.1621382531427; Tue, 18 May 2021 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <666B8455-7B26-4E89-A7F2-0279B4D67FCB@cable.comcast.com> <13254.1620835357@localhost> <28847.1620853812@localhost> <3368CD2E-E92E-418A-ACA6-772D42FEC2AD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Bob McMahon Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 17:02:00 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Neil Davies , Jonathan Morton , bloat Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="000000000000e9292d05c2a3890e" Subject: Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: Terminology for Laypeople X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 00:02:13 -0000 --000000000000e9292d05c2a3890e Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d510cf05c2a38951" --000000000000d510cf05c2a38951 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ok, though I see that as accuracy in the first derivative more than inaccurate precision that mitigates the need for "ground truths." Bob On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:29 PM David Lang wrote: > precision without accuracy is having clocks that may differ from each > other by a > few seconds, but both count the same number of milliseconds for a duration. > > https://wp.stolaf.edu/it/gis-precision-accuracy/ > > David Lang > > -- This electronic communication and the information and any files transmitted with it, or attached to it, are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged, protected by privacy laws, or otherwise restricted from disclosure to anyone else. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, copying, distributing, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please return the e-mail to the sender, delete it from your computer, and destroy any printed copy of it. --000000000000d510cf05c2a38951 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ok, though I see that as accuracy in the first derivative = more than inaccurate precision that mitigates the need for "ground tru= ths."=C2=A0

Bob

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:29 PM David Lang <<= a href=3D"mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm> wrote:
precision without accuracy is = having clocks that may differ from each other by a
few seconds, but both count the same number of milliseconds for a duration.=

https://wp.stolaf.edu/it/gis-precision-accuracy/=

David Lang


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