From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x836.google.com (mail-qt1-x836.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::836]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBC063CB3B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x836.google.com with SMTP id d19so11146641qtq.9 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:17:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=B0lh8QvwfKzN6AFa4+knr+fhbzNAWI0B0Qv7eDO/1CY=; b=sm1Mnd6IMobS7EPMFu/DhCdx0Xs+qlPRr//o8Y9bszEtG0bIEJ3pJWIht5EMJ9QCN+ Gb5NPSALU3B7aeJFVMwwshBPmGU0cZqexiALSmjA12W3MSt/QPmPcMeIuHx4tnZLsyu9 VqupAYtNfOnab6SrkPitVlIKUYf07vYwGxuzandIx+va5VK2A+WIe+KiCK/7oLkHpB4/ yF7qpOhifCOJGNDVeQGX+09PEwI7W7sN41Wfq2XBBtkOrY4TrGqBkKMOZPY5pHJTQVbN F7c8CltuouPUdBlRSoHGpLqpaH5i9M6HH7rq6fK2XtiEui18x8nt5xt6dh1sEgIdDrQF 9LyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=B0lh8QvwfKzN6AFa4+knr+fhbzNAWI0B0Qv7eDO/1CY=; b=fXSrKDVTQfRYa2Jx0W9tmP+9W1n6k8xUqQZD1pmJ0B8QFgwF1Ii6NX5V+fDSo8r/8o dXwx4Y31HPYKnetKfnMiyJ545fzTlTeemk5H3Ik6sKCgXstMZe2EFrM3efPTQVOiCX9i FRdzSSsPvwK2fZ7xn5HrfnfYyV8pk9ok1QxNGHQ4/nuJMdGBiZrW0BXNTRUc0uuQuKM5 8VKVZn5ZCq5Ho4rgkxuVn+wLDs9/ipr2si6Rlc+/CyFiV2H+qiR9xce69Yme5YBpJ54n uVvA7krSYNiVC09eo/BUU4nr+SfDfLk087S2Pi0pghT1bhYgk1dGIpr2vTIO8LQid91L MnBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLMWFa52c0veEUZEBmCEy/zBInzFCI2mMxcDYjWl9ViD3oXcEIA 5lpyovo60C4A62FwwXMb0qME6KehIdhO5ZW0dsHbhO9w X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5d9be2okzguuFv1Cg9lyKYoXR1yNEcSOy9htyVa3/Jdtz7xihs7HNP0hLRlOwRBDHkIX8lyxArZ0l/Wk4K9otc= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3879:: with SMTP id r54mr14659240qtb.69.1542993425334; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:17:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> <8F4997E9-B7A3-4095-8183-89CCC53E11AB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Luca Muscariello Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:16:54 +0100 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Jonathan Morton , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000020658057b5827f4" Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:17:06 -0000 --000000000000020658057b5827f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes there was some discussion about that. Moving things to hardware should fix that. Evens traffic management in NPU based routers makes use of hardware based polling for shaping. These are trade offs one has to face all the time. There has been a discussion at the defense about hardware vs software, hardware + software, when one, when the other. BTW Toke is Doctor Toke now :-) On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 17:48, Dave Taht wrote: > Ahhh.... good. My morning has improved. I found the coffee, and I have > something way more interesting that CNN on. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dupvx6rpSLSw&feature=3Dyoutu.be > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:43 AM Jonathan Morton > wrote: > > > > > On 23 Nov, 2018, at 6:26 pm, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > > >> (I noticed an audience member brought this up in Toke=E2=80=99s thes= is > > >> defense) > > > > > > I sadly slept through that. I hope it was recorded. > > > > As it was streamed on YT, YT archived it. > > > > - Jonathan Morton > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --000000000000020658057b5827f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes there was some discussion about that.
Moving things to hardware should fix that.

Evens traffic management in NPU based= routers makes use of hardware based polling for shaping. These are trade o= ffs one has to face all the time.

There has been a discussion at the defense about hardware vs soft= ware, hardware + software, when one, when the other.=C2=A0


BTW Tok= e is Doctor Toke now :-)



On Fri 23 Nov 20= 18 at 17:48, Dave Taht <dave.taht= @gmail.com> wrote:
Ahhh....= good. My morning has improved. I found the coffee, and I have
something way more interesting that CNN on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3Dupvx6rpSLSw&feature=3Dyoutu.be

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:43 AM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote: >
> > On 23 Nov, 2018, at 6:26 pm, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
> >
> >> (I noticed an audience member brought this up in Toke=E2=80= =99s thesis
> >> defense)
> >
> > I sadly slept through that. I hope it was recorded.
>
> As it was streamed on YT, YT archived it.
>
>=C2=A0 - Jonathan Morton
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