From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x830.google.com (mail-qt1-x830.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::830]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C8E53CB3B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x830.google.com with SMTP id d18so11199361qto.8 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:32:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7ByCebAXEyegY8WILLVIbPM6otIPn96Qyo4LvVw36Y0=; b=fRpNMRXlMXOsXRlaHv8mnBskSOOsqIcHUhurhpMeNdg71+GcGGAEtgkNu3ADNicROe McsKzU01y7ox9cITUd+0GsLc07IV6uoIViX3mO4i2paRxCQN0VhuKh7LEWVZkmDh6F30 XQVXlmWDtVWRXg3SsP2+RaMIFrImvqORj/lIHArqW0SVYgt5MR381mDlxKtsR0hCHLk8 DEQRX+kduB/V6pMwY0TD6W9Nh41z/1tFD85JqQ5KQIqfqKZnRJnHtB6UX+kcXTvR7uEA 2sB+C13UZk5OP1D6aCtSFALeQR4LXrgvD2HIvz7A/sL/tSzY+anUxPloN844XGahnWjO /TKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7ByCebAXEyegY8WILLVIbPM6otIPn96Qyo4LvVw36Y0=; b=gBdT5QJlRS7tmHP99+MWyrduS5JAWEiOLUnEAOBIakLbN2z9xlfoUWKB2wcqK8+osP tmA5AQ+rBFYUFcD+t8MGCvEQPAaeEFVeUf5y9UKqV/cPTdgaHcDeW9uYIbwUNIW2uqDO J+rpFwIVMrJTLM53K6+a5n7GuRz3CEWFkR2cuApN5AlpzCUsxT7PsEuvAb8Zay1030Dz z5edRbQb5nmU7zcDuiONc4lk12DoPjLDJDtyvj7McACj9Vi0KnKNwaBUEolfNPxhrcC1 okjooVPJu2DOW8NYi1qEcibPlD6G+Aq2kzDlrtYJ0XucdKCqltN/OBN3Sqtu5tN5gb7j 2MJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaJ3Plquxck162OOinP49+c6QrYGqJs7nRgNpEPUNHLjugRdsez MG3ktRM1mefMMhTjv8ZzpDkrqquQH2Fl+1SQ5z0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/WQjJOkE72w8BEXfhzj7alGTUhQA/Z46fn+5vZT3i+qsHE98t0nOmL+mKkcx8LcagTzgkx9g2fyFSqO1YViXYw= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:981b:: with SMTP id c27mr16181987qvd.184.1542994369639; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:32:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> <8F4997E9-B7A3-4095-8183-89CCC53E11AB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Luca Muscariello Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:32:38 +0100 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Jonathan Morton , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004af9cc057b585fc8" Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:32:50 -0000 --0000000000004af9cc057b585fc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 18:27, Dave Taht wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM Luca Muscariello > wrote: > > > > Yes there was some discussion about that. > > Moving things to hardware should fix that. > > > > Evens traffic management in NPU based routers makes use of hardware > based polling for shaping. These are trade offs one has to face all the > time. > > > > There has been a discussion at the defense about hardware vs software, > hardware + software, when one, when the other. > > I'm still listening/watching. > > > > > BTW Toke is Doctor Toke now :-) > > I hope you made him sweat, at least a little. :) > > Difficult to sweet here. It=E2=80=99s freezing, but I=E2=80=99m leaving alr= eady. Toke I think has already started to eat and drink too much... > > > > > > > > On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 17:48, Dave Taht wrote: > >> > >> Ahhh.... good. My morning has improved. I found the coffee, and I have > >> something way more interesting that CNN on. > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dupvx6rpSLSw&feature=3Dyoutu.be > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:43 AM Jonathan Morton > wrote: > >> > > >> > > On 23 Nov, 2018, at 6:26 pm, Dave Taht wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> (I noticed an audience member brought this up in Toke=E2=80=99s t= hesis > >> > >> defense) > >> > > > >> > > I sadly slept through that. I hope it was recorded. > >> > > >> > As it was streamed on YT, YT archived it. > >> > > >> > - Jonathan Morton > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Bloat mailing list > >> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Dave T=C3=A4ht > >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC > >> http://www.teklibre.com > >> Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bloat mailing list > >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > --0000000000004af9cc057b585fc8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri = 23 Nov 2018 at 18:27, Dave Taht <= dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
= On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM Luca Muscariello
<luca.mu= scariello@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes there was some discussion about that.
> Moving things to hardware should fix that.
>
> Evens traffic management in NPU based routers makes use of hardware ba= sed polling for shaping. These are trade offs one has to face all the time.=
>
> There has been a discussion at the defense about hardware vs software,= hardware + software, when one, when the other.

I'm still listening/watching.

>
> BTW Toke is Doctor Toke now :-)

I hope you made him sweat, at least a little. :)


Difficult to swe= et here. It=E2=80=99s freezing, but I=E2=80=99m leaving already. Toke I thi= nk has already started to eat and drink too much...
=




>
>
>
> On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 17:48, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ahhh.... good. My morning has improved. I found the coffee, and I = have
>> something way more interesting that CNN on.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com= /watch?v=3Dupvx6rpSLSw&feature=3Dyoutu.be
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:43 AM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> = wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 23 Nov, 2018, at 6:26 pm, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> (I noticed an audience member brought this up in Tok= e=E2=80=99s thesis
>> > >> defense)
>> > >
>> > > I sadly slept through that. I hope it was recorded.
>> >
>> > As it was streamed on YT, YT archived it.
>> >
>> >=C2=A0 - Jonathan Morton
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Bloat mailing list
>> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bl= oat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dave T=C3=A4ht
>> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
>> http://www.teklibre.com
>> Tel: 1-831-205-9740
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> B= loat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat



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