From: Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:06:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHx=1M7cPJf5fdxTcEX8L0xkLFo+o4RUZmi-S7_r282-RWAgjw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1804041249370.18650@uplift.swm.pp.se>
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I'm aware of this one. The last time I checked Linux patches seemed to be
abandoned.
Hit ratio could be v v low if you remove UDP encap. Look at IPSEC.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, Luca Muscariello wrote:
>
> And yes, flow queueing, absolutely. Flow isolation, becomes fundamental is
>> such a zoo, or jungle.
>>
>
> There was talk in IETF about a transport protocol that was proposed to do
> a lot of things TCP doesn't do, but still retain some things that has been
> useful with TCP.
>
> I think it was this one:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nvo3-gue/
>
> I'd like to see it not over UDP, but rather as a native IP protocol. The
> talk was about having the network being able to look into the state machine
> of the protocol (MSS size, equivalent of SYN, etc) but not into payload
> (which would be end-to-end encrypted). It would also be able to do muxed
> streams/message based to avoid head-of-line-blocking because of single
> packet loss.
>
> So any of this that comes up then the whole FQ machinery might benefit
> frmo being able to identify flows in any new protocol, but I imagine this
> is not a hard thing to do. I still have hopes for the flow label in IPv6 to
> do this job, even though it hasn't seen wide adoption so far.
>
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>
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[not found] <tag:www.oreilly.com, 2018-04-02:/ideas/four-short-links-2-april-2018@localhost.localdomain>
2018-04-02 12:46 ` David Collier-Brown
2018-04-03 11:54 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2018-04-03 12:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-03 12:35 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-03 14:27 ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-03 14:48 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2018-04-03 15:04 ` Jim Gettys
2018-04-04 12:45 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2018-04-04 13:39 ` David Collier-Brown
2018-04-03 16:14 ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-04 7:01 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04 7:42 ` Dave Taht
2018-04-04 7:55 ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-04 8:53 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04 8:52 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04 9:56 ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-04 10:52 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-04-04 11:06 ` Luca Muscariello [this message]
2018-04-05 0:04 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-04-04 19:23 ` Michael Richardson
2018-04-04 19:38 ` Michael Welzl
2018-04-05 0:08 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
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