From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 137933B2A4 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 12:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id c8so6945345iob.6 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 09:09:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudflare.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=D2AN5AJvDSNyJuJJcmdllnZ7ntJmCYcuttdJlo5v7+U=; b=ISslMVT0ZO/uoH6AARjAptkWRwFoNqMepp1igAYjgIYDrfb8xXQVBMHhZhs8MEen/d 5N5TPRIYcPmg7l6f/tDtVOWMYx2ef4BZx37k7ko5WnmeW4749oBadYGWUyQHGe1eTDFz W5Jxnd0yCBS0wMWJKilheRgnFRWzZBqfySKsA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D2AN5AJvDSNyJuJJcmdllnZ7ntJmCYcuttdJlo5v7+U=; b=N2nXEHArSG6PNFT7Dg/K0farU1FfG0it+RFH/IcSIWQlpOIrft78AJ0zfJPCXxdTAa G2ByoHaFz3N2O5sKJ/aqGC+tv2iC0YzUzXDvw0Kw6GEdcUXdrnZc4Qi0U6UGUsY6+oVo Jhj3OB1b0ybVzar51oVpfIQZZuF5mhRsOc8pdDOHmLcWQtGyko4ro030so9bdFaNRbHr 61Jbq5IPbQEBzrQ6ZopV4gE5BQv48psCApt/WnTxeDwGciLZWmZze79dkLD6hjtD2EUj 3UWPHFexFYsTCPlQaz5HOKPWwm1V9XH/taTPJnalZbiuZ3p2bwDMkrfP3Z4f+nsZZXbE SC8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5326C+bQVEBnjFtcKuB+d/IKpG6dbCuwcqYSkhETbUtr4pJHftFO BFFSqxHf5E4i9Iqf6GCEdHj+0FBDm35OPMdXHp0faQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy7An0gr3oBDgpzRlHK2hba441/RrCufeZPLE1OTUKX1FHN8Q9XIxP0E1/SicpAOHC5byReMyoFsbU/yUnieys= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:249:: with SMTP id 70mr4679210ioc.146.1591286994230; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 09:09:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1C65A8E8-3685-4DCB-ABC1-0AF353EA0E5B@gmail.com> <87v9k7jgzo.fsf@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: From: John Graham-Cumming Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:09:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Bloat] New speed/latency/jitter test site from Cloudflare To: Dave Taht Cc: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= , Jonathan Morton , Adam Hunt , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000007252e05a744609a" X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 16:09:55 -0000 --00000000000007252e05a744609a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yeah. I agree on the measurement. I have the same issue. My home Internet is 1Gbps fiber and getting that right is important. The team currently knows that they need to make me happy. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 16:41, Dave Taht wrote: > Dear John: > > I am primarily an email person. But if github is the best way to > engage, we can do that. > > My own bugaboo is that it helps a LOT to verify your test is measuring > what you think it is, via using another tool. In > our case that's flent (typically the rrul test), which gives correct > results past 10Gbit. Most of the web browser based tests > start to struggle > 200mbit. > > I'd so LOVE to be able to put the basic requirements for flent > (netperf and irtt) on more servers around the world... > --00000000000007252e05a744609a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah. I agree on the measurement. I have the same issue. M= y home Internet is 1Gbps fiber and getting that right is important. The tea= m currently knows that they need to make me happy.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 16:= 41, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Dear John:

I am primarily an email person. But if github is the best way to
engage, we can do that.

My own bugaboo is that it helps a LOT to verify your test is measuring
what you think it is, via using another tool. In
our case that's flent (typically the rrul test), which gives correct results past 10Gbit. Most of the web browser based tests
start to struggle > 200mbit.

I'd so LOVE to be able to put the basic requirements for flent
(netperf and irtt) on more servers around the world...
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