From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com (mail-ot1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EDAD3CB35 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 07:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id m13so8543070otf.6 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 04:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WqXLazlPOmT+kY8nZDFs0e5lUX46SH3un1X3XuD1iZY=; b=oTL+ucDLpvwWMq42IF8wROyy+Of/gygzCDzt5TIJc303fGH/PMpMqHV94tekLHgDYH lCddDZQ9OOtp9DwIGQLYFS8wA4Zc5k7CRuwWxt0PJA0T2InovW4l/KBB+/SpCSx0COyk zCyxronq2332ApcBKHpYW0649tlw5ZT/TFteH6PhMY+goE/oP0UbgyrV+QM8PoxkcUuO lkesUAc772yXsEkByrfj8pDdiJfe+VmvSVc8Nw0+VSveTma3iknl2D8hEZOARCS2Z0tQ RA1VZ/5YSxq+t7Qs1VKsyLJ19Np8rUykN7+I3dER/HK3aMtb+GhkyeAlBTLyXEPBSuOh tnPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WqXLazlPOmT+kY8nZDFs0e5lUX46SH3un1X3XuD1iZY=; b=aL9dE7eLEvKlYyuup5M2hAYEo9jeu1HQdnJ1fcbOmmeqdUmVd2cZCxQxH8csxmPKJW 45444Mjwl8i//iKENvBBwBdBAE5TLIH6WkFGesJFRHUXLF7eL6FAuXcKo3AZT2s7t+Qq u3ScPUxJF58WXC3etH2Y+p5r5pZ9Dgn7iDnCPVei0a0IXHjsUljtiL6PyRpu9lZl5jyL GZO06UbT3XOTj43Asrhe0BY69e2GzqtxWFV1ANXJCJAngIyUljDnitumJngxP5AO41jo 8xkUdQiAyKVE8jVKImIuhzD3eGmcvj9QhRKYTF5d4+daG0Ydak0rsic6ESBsoHgjHqmc MbsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYOhATA1rOzRmH5VJ6aeSRiLSfw5VVv3iyiqSBotLdmoEirqH7T 5ANnTSCUKKcQNgAHGn5Wruq5Kr4l3VX1cu4T9/U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIhDrRgYFOjHMe4I5jlURy0+0VxMMzMNo6JesMJll29TD1EJYH4vCvr9Ugi+eiRIgbCNo4UXHTtACQelPZInGk= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:611:: with SMTP id 17mr13483395otn.333.1588591705457; Mon, 04 May 2020 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3764C024-5F18-41C8-98F0-9FA423ED5860@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Sterling Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 07:28:14 -0400 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Dave Taht , Rich Brown , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004c1c2505a4d0d482" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 11:28:26 -0000 --0000000000004c1c2505a4d0d482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is what came up with when I was running both DSL and cable modems. I don=E2=80=99t use it any more but it should still work https://gist.githubusercontent.com/eqhmcow/9967292/raw/d091ed7430d3c161971c= bf0d20c3267b77f0c5ce/multi-routes.sh This script lets you use multiple internet connections, both simultaneously and transparently, both from the router itself and via boxes behind the router through NAT. For this to actually work with NAT, you most definitely need to recompile your linux kernel with the "Routing and # Netfilter" patches from http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/#routes . (Using the latest full patchset is fine.) On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:26 PM David Lang wrote: > I've been wanting to set this sort of thing up (the best DSL I can get is > 8/1, > and that's with a bondd DSL setup) but have not been able to find a good > tutorial in setting things up. > > anyone have any pointers? > > David Lang > > On Sun, 3 May 2020, Dave Taht wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 07:33:56 -0700 > > From: Dave Taht > > To: Daniel Sterling > > Cc: Rich Brown , bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > > Subject: Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM? > > > > not huge on bonding, simpler to just get the two uplinks and split > > flows across them with an sqm instance for each and a tc hash > > directing flows at one or another. > > > > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:30 AM Daniel Sterling > > wrote: > >> > >> When I had both DSL and cable modem, I compiled Linux with this patch > set to make multi gateway NAT work and it worked great > >> > >> http://ja.ssi.bg/#routes > >> > >> Should be able to use that plus ifb+cake on each NIC to do the right > thing, aye? > >> > >> As an aside, I'm kind of furious that NAT fix never got merged upstrea= m > :( it's so useful for multiple uplinks > >> > >> -- Dan > >> > >> On May 3, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Rich Brown > wrote: > >> > >> =EF=BB=BFGiven the crummy internet service in my area (DSL, max of > 15mbps/1mbps), I wonder if we could improve things by getting a second > connection from our ISP and "bonding" the two links together in my OpenWr= t > router. > >> > >> I see both Multiwan (which is self-described as old) and mwan3. > >> > >> But neither would seem to offer the kinds of latency control > (SQM/fq_codel/cake) that the cool kids in networking have come to expect. > >> > >> Any recommendations from this group for such an effort? Thanks. > >> > >> Rich > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bloat mailing list > >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bloat mailing list > >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > > > > > -- > > Make Music, Not War > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > http://www.teklibre.com > > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --0000000000004c1c2505a4d0d482 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is what came up with when I was running both DS= L and cable modems.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t use it any more but it should sti= ll work

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m the router itself and via boxes behind the router through NAT.
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tp://www.ssi.bg/~ja/#routes . (Using the latest full patchset is fine.)=


On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:26 PM David= Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
=
I've been wanting to set this sort of thing up (= the best DSL I can get is 8/1,
and that's with a bondd DSL setup) but have not been able to find a goo= d
tutorial in setting things up.

anyone have any pointers?

David Lang

=C2=A0 On Sun, 3 May 2020, Dave Taht wrote:

> Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 07:33:56 -0700
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> To: Daniel Sterling <sterling.daniel@gmail.com>
> Cc: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?
>
> not huge on bonding, simpler to just get the two uplinks and split
> flows across them with an sqm instance for each and a tc hash
> directing flows at one or another.
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:30 AM Daniel Sterling
> <ste= rling.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> When I had both DSL and cable modem, I compiled Linux with this pa= tch set to make multi gateway NAT work and it worked great
>>
>> http://ja.ssi.bg/#routes
>>
>> Should be able to use that plus ifb+cake on each NIC to do the rig= ht thing, aye?
>>
>> As an aside, I'm kind of furious that NAT fix never got merged= upstream :( it's so useful for multiple uplinks
>>
>> -- Dan
>>
>> On May 3, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BFGiven the crummy internet service in my area (DSL, max of= 15mbps/1mbps), I wonder if we could improve things by getting a second con= nection from our ISP and "bonding" the two links together in my O= penWrt router.
>>
>> I see both Multiwan (which is self-described as old) and mwan3. >>
>> But neither would seem to offer the kinds of latency control (SQM/= fq_codel/cake) that the cool kids in networking have come to expect.
>>
>> Any recommendations from this group for such an effort? Thanks. >>
>> Rich
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> B= loat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bloat mailing list
>> B= loat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>
>
>
> --
> Make Music, Not War
>
> Dave T=C3=A4ht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat= @lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
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