From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x230.google.com (mail-lf0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B98D63B29F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b75so209147325lfg.3 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:01:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Hw2aPGS5G4QIAsDhf1kj43rTlNAKgU0jA5Pj2AodBqs=; b=d4YMfBdR+C7bPNIPWoqc48kBnGwjQ4BY9cxenJ0UBeHhkoSac6c0fjVIDHY2QPOUXp CCCOnGVcAaH6U5dIeB9Ebl2yMfhYQFalwhGLwg6p6mZQ9mCsw/aY0IasT+CZmwxfydXj c4BCw4nQX1zcTvBeX++uRq83NctjkK8y8Jmj+ROkfjbAm7PpisJOx9XrZC9054XDgPt1 EZJ/3U0YX3bNwYUxIhdxjutY5RrGyP56L6Otb2yRc6FWvNhm6CR2wJJwr29Kr66bEWTb /vrqVffKs7JqYO+yIO3VabDxXhpRovoh2aLTt9fuk5NQ+NG4U9RLFpdNGxok1qaQRY0B i6eA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Hw2aPGS5G4QIAsDhf1kj43rTlNAKgU0jA5Pj2AodBqs=; b=QysT7ZgVR7erfqnWxmwQBFRxFr0TEVmDR8SxMYeqeLdKXTQKoGn7PICkqgk66+fZ3l UzUm0T9z5L1xyGAmn5zN7S/wW//Ks7nXjyXzzK9adzV5TaopK0/B7WFEDuxPFzsJVekS XPLRdU3MN/Dp8Qvz0knSaUXr7K9VvGw5QX1oyH9rHxCUkqV4vihvjuedtMP8jokc3jF7 ygFeqTQcRU7w9rushCB7NeW7oGIg2zB6nHGmEGw5SWi9WWksww8CYSndiJcDwwM+Ycnq EdP6ChwracqZsyjuYMz6NXIVdzWZ+eBqYifJSCgRkZbPMAbONjFoIrD2b7Zs2PAMoLf0 dlKw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvcRvU9X143cK38rJB0iuxO++mZTZrViFEzf9cWDZZmI4AwebIoabSfkPN2EWaSoQZCZrBrLX/aiY+oCHw== X-Received: by 10.25.19.216 with SMTP id 85mr1597561lft.154.1477396861393; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:01:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.217.150 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:01:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Benjamin Cronce Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:01:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: jb Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonas_M=C3=A5rtensson?= , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113dc1201da5df053faf43cc Subject: Re: [Bloat] 22 seconds til bloat on gfiber? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:01:03 -0000 --001a113dc1201da5df053faf43cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a max duration*bandwidth we should use to be courteous? On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 7:09 PM, jb wrote: > You should not need to create new buttons, I set bloat high frequency as > an anonymous user in preferences, saved the prefs, ran the test - but as > http - and it worked. However bloat high frequency was auto-disabled for > https because I was unsure it was valid to do high frequency pinging over > SSL. > > Here is a result of turning it on: > https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5435977 > you can see in the bloat graph, the difference in ping resolution. > > However the test duration is not changed, if you want to run for longer > you should increase the duration parameters. > > I've disabled the disabling of bloat high frequency over https so give > it another go. first, go to preferences and verify the checkbox is checke= d. > then run it. Send me a link to the results if you don't see any differenc= e > still. > > thanks > -Justin > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Benjamin Cronce > wrote: > >> WDM-PON, giving each customer their own lambda of bandwidth. Effectively >> a 1:1 split. >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson < >> martensson.jonas@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Dave Taht wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5408767 >>>>> >>>> >>>> What's the setup here? Someone has told me that Google Fiber is PON? S= o >>>> there is an ONT at the customer prem which takes fiber and hands off s= ome >>>> kind of 1GBASE-T? What more? >>>> >>>> Just trying to figure out what device has ~13-15 megabyte buffer so it >>>> can induce 1200ms buffer lag at 1 gigabit/s. >>> >>> >>> Of course I don't know the setup in this particular case but from what >>> I've heard, gfiber is mostly GPON with 1:16 splits. They have used >>> different ONT versions but the "current" generation seems to be a custo= m >>> ONT from an ODM: >>> >>> https://support.google.com/fiber/answer/6035992?hl=3Den&ref_topic=3D266= 7450 >>> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Google_Fiber_Jack_v2_(GFLT110) >>> >>> Also, this may be interesting: >>> >>> https://gfiber-review.googlesource.com/#/c/1232/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bloat mailing list >>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> >> > --001a113dc1201da5df053faf43cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a max duration*bandwidth we should use to be cour= teous?

On Mo= n, Oct 24, 2016 at 7:09 PM, jb <justin@dslr.net> wrote:
You should not need to create = new buttons, I set bloat high frequency as an anonymous user in preferences= , saved the prefs, ran the test - but as http - and it worked. However bloa= t high frequency was auto-disabled for https because I was unsure it was va= lid to do high frequency pinging over SSL.

Here is a res= ult of turning it on:
you can see in the bloat graph, the = difference in ping resolution.

However the test du= ration is not changed, if you want to run for longer=C2=A0
you sh= ould increase the duration parameters.

I've di= sabled the disabling of bloat high frequency over https so give
i= t another go. first, go to preferences and verify the checkbox is checked.<= /div>
then run it. Send me a link to the results if you don't see a= ny difference
still.

thanks
-J= ustin


On Tue, Oct 25, 2016= at 9:10 AM, Benjamin Cronce <bcronce@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
WDM-PON, giving each custome= r their own lambda of bandwidth. Effectively a 1:1 split.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson <martensson.jonas@gmail.com> wrote:
On= Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>= wrote:
On Sat,= 22 Oct 2016, Dave Taht wrote:

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5408767

What's the setup here? Someone has told me that Google Fiber is PON? So= there is an ONT at the customer prem which takes fiber and hands off some = kind of 1GBASE-T? What more?

Just trying to figure out what device has ~13-15 megabyte buffer so it can = induce 1200ms buffer lag at 1 gigabit/s.

=
Of course I don't know the setup in this particular case but from = what I've heard, gfiber is mostly GPON with 1:16 splits. They have used= different ONT versions but the "current" generation seems to be = a custom ONT from an ODM:


Also, this may be interesting:



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