From: Benjamin Cronce <bcronce@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] fixing bufferbloat in 2017
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:27:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ_ENFFSrSidq1XSD=eOXXtzoY5aiuWaGSC4jBUnXdBCbhTdjw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1611231818130.3558@uplift.swm.pp.se>
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Pedro Tumusok wrote:
>
> If this something we should try, I can help out with the first point, but
>> the second one probably needs local bufferbloat evangelists.
>>
>
> I am not worried about getting these people on board to show a solution.
>
> I'm worried that we do not have a solution that is easily deployable for
> "normal" people. If someone has X/Y megabit/s Comcast Internet connection,
> what solution do we have to offer them? I can't think of one that actually
> solves the problem for real.
If there is a simple affordable solution, say Open/DD-WRT distro based
bridge that all you do is configure your up/down bandwidth and it applies
Codel/fq-Codel/Cake, then all you need to do is drive up awareness. A good
channel for awareness would be getting in contact with popular Twitch or
YouTube gaming streamers. But I wouldn't put much effort into driving up
awareness until there is a device that people can easily acquire, use, and
afford. At first I was thinking of telling people to use *-WRT supporting
routers, but changing the firmware on your router requires too much
research, and many people care about bleeding edge features. You need
something that works in tangent with whatever they are using.
>
>
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-22 15:32 Dave Taht
2016-11-22 16:19 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-22 16:25 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-22 16:38 ` Jim Gettys
2016-11-23 8:28 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 11:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-23 11:59 ` Kelvin Edmison
2016-11-23 13:31 ` Pedro Tumusok
2016-11-23 14:05 ` Mário Sérgio Fujikawa Ferreira
2016-11-23 17:20 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 17:27 ` Benjamin Cronce [this message]
2016-11-23 17:31 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 17:40 ` Sebastian Moeller
2016-11-23 17:50 ` Noah Causin
2016-11-23 17:56 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:05 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 18:38 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 19:29 ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 19:42 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 20:20 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 17:54 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 18:18 ` Sebastian Moeller
2016-11-23 18:24 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 20:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-11-23 19:13 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:17 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 15:32 ` Pedretti Fabio
2016-11-23 19:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-11-23 19:22 ` Dave Taht
[not found] <mailman.447.1479909940.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-11-23 18:16 ` Rich Brown
2016-11-23 18:46 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:58 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-23 19:15 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 20:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
[not found] <mailman.454.1479929363.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-11-26 15:33 ` [Bloat] Fixing " Rich Brown
2016-11-27 1:53 ` Aaron Wood
2016-11-27 6:10 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-27 21:24 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 2:11 ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-28 2:16 ` Jim Gettys
2016-11-28 6:00 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-28 12:48 ` David Collier-Brown
2016-11-28 15:12 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 15:23 ` Wesley Eddy
2016-11-28 15:35 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 16:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-11-28 17:07 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 19:02 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-28 17:52 ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-28 15:14 ` Pedro Tumusok
2016-11-28 15:23 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 15:10 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 2:47 ` David Lang
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