From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-x22a.google.com (mail-yk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E75321F362 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykaz81 with SMTP id z81so12266210yka.3 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=st+ynBQRAgdhUR5vA2IeydL0G9WS2KIGAxs2J7byD6w=; b=V8NBuguq+3fdcMIsd9BvQVue/dxPE1hO5vfiAbtf7rAf1A/tmrryqmHLX9TlmVaSIh 7wsQrXUL2bL4a1jf5zFUrgGk9rOu9M5w7FRodKbB83JnQpUfvagG8JEHWD+G/8fF+SHj sTVCGUvTK1iGH+QpJG/YfcUSiiqWfGb1dzpXLIPfpp9WN3O7XxuN2GmPbUBu7cnQZrwv ljSA5m2jHbts/LVfvzdQO0LZUK3JMNrk8/Md0LyjLpTM04SdZbFQZnesgcmT+B6JMksC msq+QQUNCrCwjj7bM1AKLWSksDLSDFi3tmg0lNAPMamJm69DcWHFUukwYGq0XUMrhK9N tQRw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.35.207 with SMTP id 198mr15993864ykd.121.1434084315042; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.148.194 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Cronce To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1137b6982d1bc005184ac6ad Subject: [Bloat] Bloat done correctly? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:45:44 -0000 --001a1137b6982d1bc005184ac6ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This is my first time using a mailing list, so I apologize if I break any etiquettes. Here is my situation. I have 100/100 via GPON, the ISP claims "dedicated" bandwidth defined as the port is not oversubscribed. I was told their core network can handle all customers at 100% of their provisioned speeds, but their trunk would go down in a spectacular blaze. I was also told their trunk consists of 6 links to Level 3 and they could handle 5 of those links going down without congestion occurring on the trunk during peak hours. The GPON head unit aggregates directly into the core router, router is some flashy new Cisco that supports "a lot of 10Gb and 100Gb ports". I have a 1ms hop to my ISP, then a 9ms hop to Level 3. The reason I mentioned this is it may be useful when interpreting these results that the only likely point of congestion is my 100Mb connection. DSLReports Jitter test https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HxTrRZob4RNU9OdmdRoxS5Ig0xf-9qwZhFwh67uyVPg=w389-h540-no On to bufferbloat. Bypass firewall(PFSense) - no AQM/QoS on my part 32/16 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/624054 24/12 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/624060 Single Stream restriction http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/624065 Through the firewall. No other traffic, so HFSC does not matter 80/443/8080 go into the same queue and uses just regular CoDel. DSLReports uses a "web ping", so the ping goes through the same queue as the speedtest http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/624075 Under load while doing P2P(About 80Mb down and 20Mb up just as I started the test) HFSC: P2P in 20% queue and 80/443/8080 in 40% queue with ACKs going to a 20% realtime queue http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/622452 Here you can see my quality graph spiked during the tests when I was outside the firewall. Because I bypassed the firewall and was no longer being traffic shaped, I was able to overload the connection. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/V4mpd_EMNXCIpdjMGQKbgrYjT_Kts9iIuFR5PnH_5Po=w760-h420-no To me it seems like bufferbloat is mostly handled. I did send them some emails to see if I could get a response on what they use, but no luck. --001a1137b6982d1bc005184ac6ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is my first time using a mailing list, so I apol= ogize if I break any etiquettes.

Here is my situat= ion.=C2=A0
I have 100/100 via GPON, the ISP claims "dedicate= d" bandwidth defined as the port is not oversubscribed.
I wa= s told their core network can handle all customers at 100% of their provisi= oned speeds, but their
trunk would go down in a spectacular blaze= . I was also told their trunk consists of 6 links to Level 3
and = they could handle 5 of those links going down without congestion occurring = on the trunk during peak hours.
The GPON head unit aggregates dir= ectly into the core router, router is some flashy new Cisco=C2=A0
that supports "a lot of 10Gb and 100Gb ports". I have a 1ms hop = to my ISP, then a 9ms hop to Level 3.

The reason I= mentioned this is it may be useful when interpreting these results that th= e only likely point
of congestion is my 100Mb connection.



On to bufferblo= at.

Bypass firewall(PFSense) - no AQM/QoS on my pa= rt

32/16
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/624054

24/12
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Single Stream restriction



Under load while doing P2P= (About 80Mb down and 20Mb up just as I started the test)
HFSC: P2= P in 20% queue and 80/443/8080 in 40% queue with ACKs going to a 20% realti= me queue

Here= you can see my quality graph spiked during the tests when I was outside th= e firewall.=C2=A0
Because I bypassed the firewall and was no long= er being traffic shaped, I was able to overload the connection.
<= br>

To me it seems like bufferbloat is mostly handled. I did se= nd them some emails to see if I could get a response
on what they= use, but no luck.
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