From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x130.google.com (mail-lf1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB1CC3B2A4 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2018 11:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x130.google.com with SMTP id d4-v6so11292824lfa.3 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:41:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jqXszOn7sS1ITAJkuqS6YoKx1H5aPjqONJMbYPJgcXY=; b=hz9armLDCfZDRIE3jJ7xWe1S5JU0CcPwjg+ZBk9LJ24mjKQ7AtrVlTT2je0YUthCTt ds+WdKGRkQODppHLtGUrfOERnO+LFANQ6OYrTEqNLU9YlGA+lbDUQyT+5434y1KzjwDT Iqu/Dp5+rLasw6I9OuMI/ScyDHUZNoslQWix1eccTArL+6mdiG48PjBIHZ+hn6YY3Llg qtQ6nk4lscrYB95qaWgWGkD8gnQH5L9yuFdfTG8DVXWwxxhi6QXNcmERUYwH2VxAkV/2 wxY26uzCob1On9wguCsPjtkizKWTIIOXeRxazXxerFgwx1flAFIf13IuB5LC6RWw1xmd G9TQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jqXszOn7sS1ITAJkuqS6YoKx1H5aPjqONJMbYPJgcXY=; b=acmJKn7HC1JppVXVjCPtttiWbPyeblfG7/fhzXNtWbBAZTRt0hhzu5egzj+n407kkU sX/Vo03ylp43vTUm2EtKHbSIWYEljdPH4Gq4Wou16lZZRNVGJhKE62+wLM2iLOVmgZnW U9Bqltf6aVP2ZU5F+3Ql4B+jLFb08tMlJvE0c1an2g3cefvynNVt1dGICGsIL65t+sQF OtmDC4Wrz1qMXiGmaPDNx7fWK0+dxRyZOoCbFNtBToPcBpRc1TfA+OAbTCm18XaZRNI/ HqwH2t4+Sd3DYK5yOTWNhzp6/vrL8ScADwASo0NtW8t23ZtkVc/lZyTtcheuDG5hgDAl Z7fA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog/iNW/s+w/tRWkI5C0RtnPwD92ZQa+hFcMkZdo3C8Y1I3Q1E5I oNj4XQLq1lTve57zIhhtiivw0vTH7JJ/lkvl7gY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63yG4Mi3MqdRMup0qRqdW6H818THrbyx8vE/HMLfQIz/bLbPdjNamTpIGm4anphWhzVKMy+Q6IuIjVsQBYJmv4= X-Received: by 2002:a19:4c02:: with SMTP id z2-v6mr8834473lfa.48.1538840474610; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4be3777e-b056-eaea-a06e-34186958c179@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4be3777e-b056-eaea-a06e-34186958c179@gmail.com> From: Benjamin Cronce Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 10:41:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: Jan Ceuleers Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000daf38905779137dc" Subject: Re: [Bloat] first bufferbloat free cablemodem? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:41:16 -0000 --000000000000daf38905779137dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Quote from the link "With 24 download and 8 upload channels, the Arris can get download speeds of up to a gigabit if your plan offers it. I'm too cheap for that experience right now, but its nice to have it as a possible option for the future. Now for the pleasant surprise. With my previous modem/router combo, I usually got D's and F's on the DSLreports.com speedtest which also measures bufferbloat. With the Arris, I consitently get A's and only an occasional B. Why should you care? Bufferbloat is high latency (or lag) that occurs when there's other traffic on your network. It can adversely affect streaming performance. Geeks have spent years developing router firmwares to combat it. I adjusted nothing and tweaked no settings to get these results. This benefit is not touted in any of the specs, but the test results speak for themselves. " On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:10 AM Jan Ceuleers wrote: > On 06/10/18 05:14, Dave Taht wrote: > > I would so love for the review on this to be true. > > > > > https://express.google.com/product/Arris-SURFboard-Cable-Modem-and-AC2350-Wi-Fi-Router-with-Arris-Secure-Home-Internet-by-McAfee/0_17937886568302066345_0 > > > > Could you post a link that can be viewed from outside the US? > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --000000000000daf38905779137dc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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"With 24 dow= nload and 8 upload channels, the Arris can get download speeds of up to a g= igabit if your plan offers it. I'm too cheap for that experience right = now, but its nice to have it as a possible option for the future. Now for t= he pleasant surprise. With my previous modem/router combo, I usually got D&= #39;s and F's on the DSLreports.com speedtest which also measures buffe= rbloat. With the Arris, I consitently get A's and only an occasional B.= Why should you care? Bufferbloat is high latency (or lag) that occurs when= there's other traffic on your network. It can adversely affect streami= ng performance. Geeks have spent years developing router firmwares to comba= t it. I adjusted nothing and tweaked no settings to get these results. This= benefit is not touted in any of the specs, but the test results speak for = themselves. "

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:10 AM Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/10/18 05:14, Dave Taht wrote:
> I would so love for the review on this to be true.
>
> https://express.g= oogle.com/product/Arris-SURFboard-Cable-Modem-and-AC2350-Wi-Fi-Router-with-= Arris-Secure-Home-Internet-by-McAfee/0_17937886568302066345_0
>

Could you post a link that can be viewed from outside the US?
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